Re Speed FB Rear brake kit Caliper Question
08-31-12, 02:21 AM
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Re Speed FB Rear brake kit Caliper Question
Hi All,
I have bought a unfinished project and it has the Re Speed front and back kits in the car.. The fronts went in without any issues but the rear I have a few questions about..
There was some callipers in the car that appear from what I thought were FC but could be perhaps FD.. They fit the RE Speed mounting brackets and also took the FC calliper rebuild kit I put in them but it appears the hand brake bracket that holds the cable doesn’t work..
Can anyone confirm if there is a difference between the FC / FD rear calliper and if the RE Speed bracket works.. Not sure if its just due to lack of sleep or not but to me I may have FD callipers and not FC and I was under the impression that they were the same callipers anyway..
Any help would be great …
Cheers
I have bought a unfinished project and it has the Re Speed front and back kits in the car.. The fronts went in without any issues but the rear I have a few questions about..
There was some callipers in the car that appear from what I thought were FC but could be perhaps FD.. They fit the RE Speed mounting brackets and also took the FC calliper rebuild kit I put in them but it appears the hand brake bracket that holds the cable doesn’t work..
Can anyone confirm if there is a difference between the FC / FD rear calliper and if the RE Speed bracket works.. Not sure if its just due to lack of sleep or not but to me I may have FD callipers and not FC and I was under the impression that they were the same callipers anyway..
Any help would be great …
Cheers
08-31-12, 07:58 AM
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Is the e-brake bracket (the re-speed one) not the right length for your setup? Or does it just not fit at all? Reason I ask is because I had to modify mine to work on my FC calipers - it was too long and the cable didn't fit correctly.
Oh btw this is pandafb from the other forum that you've been talking to
Sounds like you're getting there on the project!
Oh btw this is pandafb from the other forum that you've been talking to
Sounds like you're getting there on the project!
08-31-12, 09:47 AM
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hey sean,
yeh ill be home in a hr so ill get some pics and post them up..
The hand brake part was a tad hard to put on - needed a little clearencing but at the same time the long hand brake bracket im not sure is right..
need to find a proper pic of it as the print out i got that was in the car is black and white and at least 5 yrs old as the cars been sitting for that long lol
email me some pics of yours if you have them
yeh ill be home in a hr so ill get some pics and post them up..
The hand brake part was a tad hard to put on - needed a little clearencing but at the same time the long hand brake bracket im not sure is right..
need to find a proper pic of it as the print out i got that was in the car is black and white and at least 5 yrs old as the cars been sitting for that long lol
email me some pics of yours if you have them
08-31-12, 10:20 AM
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IIRC, I think the calipers have to switch sides, but I could be mistaken. If this is the case, it would address your problem, but maybe not.
I have been running this setup for years, and still have yet to fix my e-brake issue. My issue is that on one side, the passenger I believe, the e0brake cable is long enough, but not on the drivers side. With the drivers side installed it has the e-brake engaged at all times, so I just unhooked it. I think I just need to get SE e-brake cables. It's on the list of things to do.
I have been running this setup for years, and still have yet to fix my e-brake issue. My issue is that on one side, the passenger I believe, the e0brake cable is long enough, but not on the drivers side. With the drivers side installed it has the e-brake engaged at all times, so I just unhooked it. I think I just need to get SE e-brake cables. It's on the list of things to do.
08-31-12, 01:18 PM
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On the re-speed rear bb kit the left caliper is used on the right and the right caliper used on the left side. Just did the install this morning lol.
Interesting you guys having issues with the ebrake cables and new re-speed mounts. My cables would basically be like as if the ebrake was on when on the new re-speed parts. I thought of the little adjuster under the ebrake cover on the right side.. loosened that up(was real tight) with a flathead and the ebrake cable fit perfect on the new re-speed mounts. Once done I'll probably tighten back up some more so I don't have the ebrake so high up when pulled..
Those calipers you have don't look like my FC turbo calipers do bo0557. Maybe those are FC N/A?
Interesting you guys having issues with the ebrake cables and new re-speed mounts. My cables would basically be like as if the ebrake was on when on the new re-speed parts. I thought of the little adjuster under the ebrake cover on the right side.. loosened that up(was real tight) with a flathead and the ebrake cable fit perfect on the new re-speed mounts. Once done I'll probably tighten back up some more so I don't have the ebrake so high up when pulled..
Those calipers you have don't look like my FC turbo calipers do bo0557. Maybe those are FC N/A?
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08-31-12, 02:19 PM
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ummm please dont say that as ive just rebuilt them !!!!!
does anyone know what they could be - NA or FD ??
ive tried calling Sam and the guys at Re Speed today but they arent answering the phone
does anyone know what they could be - NA or FD ??
ive tried calling Sam and the guys at Re Speed today but they arent answering the phone
09-01-12, 09:59 AM
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T2 calipers have 2 bleeders on them, and will have ribs on them (for cooling I guess, or strength I'm not sure which) Can you take a pic of the other side of the caliper, because that's where those ribs would be
Based on them only having one bleeder though I'd guess they are NA FC's though...
I'll try to get some pics of mine later, but I haven't had a chance to yet...
Edit - thought about it some more, that 2nd bleeder would be on the other side, a pic of the caliper flipped over would confirm it...
Based on them only having one bleeder though I'd guess they are NA FC's though...
I'll try to get some pics of mine later, but I haven't had a chance to yet...
Edit - thought about it some more, that 2nd bleeder would be on the other side, a pic of the caliper flipped over would confirm it...
09-01-12, 11:04 AM
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heres the other side of the caliper..
Have been thinking and if i buy some t2 calipers £60 or there abouts and a rebuild kit £30 - i may be better off getting a hydraulic hand brake instead and do away with the cables all together..
But if someone can confirm what these may be off that would be sweet
Have been thinking and if i buy some t2 calipers £60 or there abouts and a rebuild kit £30 - i may be better off getting a hydraulic hand brake instead and do away with the cables all together..
But if someone can confirm what these may be off that would be sweet
10-12-12, 11:04 AM
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I have the original GSL-SE rear brake system on my car, and I'm considering a rear brake upgrade. What's the advantage of the FC Turbo rear caliper over the original FB GSL-SE?
My info shows the same 34.9mm rear caliper bore for all 13B RX-7s thru 1995.
My info shows the same 34.9mm rear caliper bore for all 13B RX-7s thru 1995.
10-12-12, 11:38 AM
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i have the respeed kit with a 8.8 rear axle. what I notcied with mine was the diamater of my axle was so thick that it pushed the calipers 3" forward in the car causing my cable to bind on both sides. tried to reverse the two and same thing. So for now I just keep it as is and use 1st as a n extra brake
10-13-12, 07:11 PM
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Have you got this sorted???
As i said on a/r i had some small issues with the way the levers were made (they were out of aligment slightly), which i fixed quickly myself.
I'm concered about the operation of the handbrake with mine as I haven't actually be able to test the handbrake yet. But i think the concern is from my doing, not the kit lol..
regarding the kit......
IMO the instructions provided aren't as well written as they should be, but thats easy for me to say as I write SOP's as part of my job.
Even though its not required with the conversion, It would be nice to have some information about the mechinisim in the caliper for the handbrake or a mention of web page ect..... The reason i say this is because many people will rebuild the calipers at the same time as doing this conversion (as i did), and having that information would clear up any issues that might be from the rebuild rather than the conversion kit.
On a side note I also got the brake lines from Sam, and I've got an issue with clearance. they head straight for bolts of the rear upper arms.
I havent bothered Sam about this as im sure i can sort it. I'm going to remove them and see if i can bend the pipe a little, and i'll run some foam pipe insulation over them to ensure they dont rub.
Don't get me wrong, im happy with what Sam has provided and if i were local to him i would of helped him to fix my issues and sort out clearer instructions for the kit, but it's very hard when you're on the other side of the planet.
As i said on a/r i had some small issues with the way the levers were made (they were out of aligment slightly), which i fixed quickly myself.
I'm concered about the operation of the handbrake with mine as I haven't actually be able to test the handbrake yet. But i think the concern is from my doing, not the kit lol..
regarding the kit......
IMO the instructions provided aren't as well written as they should be, but thats easy for me to say as I write SOP's as part of my job.
Even though its not required with the conversion, It would be nice to have some information about the mechinisim in the caliper for the handbrake or a mention of web page ect..... The reason i say this is because many people will rebuild the calipers at the same time as doing this conversion (as i did), and having that information would clear up any issues that might be from the rebuild rather than the conversion kit.
On a side note I also got the brake lines from Sam, and I've got an issue with clearance. they head straight for bolts of the rear upper arms.
I havent bothered Sam about this as im sure i can sort it. I'm going to remove them and see if i can bend the pipe a little, and i'll run some foam pipe insulation over them to ensure they dont rub.
Don't get me wrong, im happy with what Sam has provided and if i were local to him i would of helped him to fix my issues and sort out clearer instructions for the kit, but it's very hard when you're on the other side of the planet.
10-15-12, 01:40 PM
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Those really look like single piston calipers (unless I'm just stupid), which means they can't be turbo calipers. Turbo rear calipers are twin piston..
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^Negative, stop filling the forums with mis-information. If you dont know, dont respond
The calipers you posted pictures of *appear* to be FC turbo rear calipers. The vented ribbing stuff ontop is a give-a-away.
Non-turbo GXL and Turbo S4 FC cars shared the same brakes all around. All S5's which had vented rear discs used Turbo rear calipers.
The calipers you posted pictures of *appear* to be FC turbo rear calipers. The vented ribbing stuff ontop is a give-a-away.
Non-turbo GXL and Turbo S4 FC cars shared the same brakes all around. All S5's which had vented rear discs used Turbo rear calipers.
10-16-12, 04:48 PM
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hey Adsoy01 yes i am all sorted but hand brake untested like yourself..
mine went on ok but i will need to adjust it underneath ones the car is rolling again.. I also thought the brake line kit as i the project i bought come with it was very very close also..
If pulled mine over and cable tied it down so hopefully no rubbing..
mine went on ok but i will need to adjust it underneath ones the car is rolling again.. I also thought the brake line kit as i the project i bought come with it was very very close also..
If pulled mine over and cable tied it down so hopefully no rubbing..
10-22-12, 09:37 AM
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^Negative, stop filling the forums with mis-information. If you dont know, dont respond
The calipers you posted pictures of *appear* to be FC turbo rear calipers. The vented ribbing stuff ontop is a give-a-away.
Non-turbo GXL and Turbo S4 FC cars shared the same brakes all around. All S5's which had vented rear discs used Turbo rear calipers.
The calipers you posted pictures of *appear* to be FC turbo rear calipers. The vented ribbing stuff ontop is a give-a-away.
Non-turbo GXL and Turbo S4 FC cars shared the same brakes all around. All S5's which had vented rear discs used Turbo rear calipers.
Not all S5's have the turbo calipers. 89/90 GTU (not GTUs) and the 91 base model (they didn't call them GTU's or GXL's etc in 91) had the solid rotor and non-turbo caliper setup in the rear. As you said though, any turbo (obviously), GXL, and I *believe* vert should have come with the turbo calipers all around...
As a side note, my rear brake hoses run into the upper control arm bolt as well. I put some silicone vaccum hose over it to protect it... Wasn't too happy about the fitment on them...
10-22-12, 10:24 AM
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I got my hardlines running loose on the axle till I can find a better sollution (zip ties now). the E-brake cables are the worst part of this swap. If there was a kit that shortens the rear portion of the lines byt 3" it would fit perfect
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