rxmadness

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i am thinking about getting them, any of you guys have them? any problems? quality nice? are there alignment issues afterwards?

and also the RB sway bars...worth the money? do they even make a difefrence from stock?

and tokico shocks, are blues good? 200$ for all 4 good deal?

thanks lol

mazdaverx713b

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the RB springs are excellent quality and do not cause issues. $200 for all four tokico shocks is a really good deal!

Jeezus

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Their springs are nice. As with most RB products they will last as long as the car, maybe longer.

You will notice a difference with the sway bars. If it were my though, I would go for ReSpeed's sway bars. He had a RB and a ReSpeed bar down at ZoomFest last year. The RB is solid and ReSpeed's is tubular, the weight difference alone would make up my mind.

I have the Blues on my car. Love em! Look around on ebay, sometimes you can find a deal. I got my set for $150 shipped.

rxmadness

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right on! excellent info!

Super82

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RB's springs are known for not being very low FYI. A lot of times they raise the car because the old stock springs are sagging lower than these lowering springs. I did the measurements on my car and they wouldn't have lowered it at all. Also they are not very stiff, atleast in the competition world. They are good for tightening up a street driven car, but IMO unless you're racing springs don't make a real big difference.

I have tokico blues. They alright, no complaints here. Ride is decent and they are sporty, however they could be stiffer.

orion84gsl

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I would recommend you pass on the RB springs and save for an RE-Speed suspension setup. It may cost a little bit more but in the end you will be much much happier. You'll get a nice product, and fantastic customer service/support. Plus it's likely that you will want to upgrade again in the future once you get bored with the RB stuff. I'm overhauling my entire suspension with RE-Speed parts this spring. The RB parts are fine for spirited street driving, but that's really about all they are good for.

Kentetsu

I also started out with Racing Beat equipment, only to find that I "outgrew" that stuff within a couple of weeks. Good quality, but the performance increase just wasn't great enough to justify the expense in my opinion.

I moved up to Respeed stuff, sold off my RB stuff, and now I'm very happy. I just wish that I had gone directly to respeed, as I would've saved a lot of money and frustration. The cost between the two setups is not very much, especially when compared to the difference in performance and quality (and customer support).

Do your homework before you make a decision. www.re-speed.com






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chino_rx3

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well I agree with you guys re-speed is much better ride for performance driving, I have rb springs and kyb struts and installing sway bar as well I love the way it feels is my daily and when i kick the gas and take corners and spin love the control cant wait to install sway bar, oh and you do feel it, Is alot stiffer than stock..love them but spend it if you going to keep for sure dont put money and then sell is a lost case. spend it once and you be happy from the get go,

rxmadness

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what about alignment issues??? im looking at teh respeed springs now they drop 1" i was looking for a little more than 1" drop but thats ok. will i need an alignment after doing respeed springs with 1" drop, and tokico blues on all 4s?
thanks

also ive header 1st gens dont have camber adustments? what about shimming? is that still an option?

rxmadness

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are these the ones i woul want?
http://mrcmfg.com/catalog/product_in...roducts_id=149

rxmadness

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ok like 30 seconds ago i just bought these tokico blues
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
207$ shipped i thought it was a good deal lol

now can u gusy help me pick out the best springs to buy

Kentetsu

No, what you would be looking for is the Street version of their Coilover kit: http://mrcmfg.com/catalog/product_in...roducts_id=233

That allows you to select the spring rate that you want. Also, this is a fully adjustable setup, so you set the car at exactly the ride height that you like.

These are the springs: http://mrcmfg.com/catalog/product_in...roducts_id=236

Camber adjustments can be made if you install camber plates, which they also sell. I have them, they work great and make a huge difference in the handling of the car. Here are the camber plates: http://mrcmfg.com/catalog/product_in...products_id=38

As with any suspension changes, you should have the car aligned afterward.

If you have any questions, like what spring rate to choose, etc. Then you can send the owner a PM on this website (Bwaits_), or join the forum on his website and ask there.

Good luck.

P.S. Respeed had the Blues for 196.86 plus shipping....

rxmadness

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im a little lost on how those coil over kits work, could you post a pic of yours all set up?

Jeezus

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I second the ReSpeed coilovers, I run the race version on mine.

EDIT: Just saw your post. Here is the front strut assembly that I run. ReSpeed race
coilovers, Tokico HP's, Mazdaspeed brake coolers. You have basically a hollow screw
that you slip over your shock, and a nut that you can screw up (more height) or down
(drop). The pic is at the max height.

installer67

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Best springs depends on how you drive, what type of driving you do, what terrain you drive on etc. The best "race" springs are not the best for "street" driving. Do you want smooth driving? Do you want to feel all the bumps? Do you like a softer or stiffer suspension? I have tokico blues and RB springs on all for corners, and my car handles great. The suspension is actually a little stiff for me, I don't race. I do lot's of hilly,windy, bumpy roads. Lot's of people will recomend setups, mostly racers as they prefer a stiffer tight suspension for the needed handling demands. I personally like a balance between the two, so the RB setup is a good compromise. I'm impressed with the re-speed setup, but it is too much suspension for what I do as a DD. Now my next project may be a more "Race" oriented car, then I'd certainly go with that setup. Bottom line is, it's not as much a question of the best springs, more like the best for the applicatiuon you need. Only you know what will suit your driving best.

rxmadness

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ok jeezus thanks for teh great pic and explaination! looks freakin sweet but im gonna go with installer67's thinking on this one, i daily drive my rx7 and autoX liek 4 times a year so i think my tokico blues with some RB springs would be a nice balanced set up as far as price and handling go.

hey ray did the RB springs actually bring your car down an inch like they say?

MountainScreamer

Installer67 makes a good point. What is the car used for? Racing Beat is great quality and the tokico blues and RB springs are a good starting point. The setup is great for just a little more spirited DD. I personally have B+G springs and KYB's. The ride is really good for spirited driving but I haven't ridden in a Blue/RB setup car so I can't truly compare. The KYB's seem really soft to me, I should have gotten the blues.
For my tastes, I should have gone with RE-Speed since I have a weekend toy that I beat the hell out of, but I was impatient and broke. Bad Combo.

So, if you want just a better DD, racing beat. Something more aggressive, RE-Speed.
Also you can run camber plates on both setups.

orion84gsl

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Just gonna throw this out there, if you race at all then your going to eventually want some adjustability. With RE-speed stuff you'll have that. If your looking to save a few bucks go with Tokico HPs (Blues) in the front and Illuminas (5-way adjustable) in the rear. Adjusting these to full soft or 1 click up will give you a comfy but sporty ride, and cranking them all the way up will tighten things up for autox. Kentetsu's car is actually very lightly sprung and cruises around nicely, but carves like a dream because of the sway bars, adjustable shocks and camber plates. It also sits like 3 inches off the ground because of the adjustable spring perches.

When I put my RB springs on the car it seemed about the same height, maybe a little higher. If you want to lower the car any more than it is the RB springs won't do it.

And even though Billy is a great vendor and we rave about his products for a reason, we aren't trying to be pushy about it. I just don't want to see people waste money and time like Kentetsu and I did on RB stuff, only to have to lose the money reselling the stuff later to upgrade.

rxmadness

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well ride height is a pretty concearnign factor here since i just put on some 17s and 205/40s and i dont like the gap in the wells

so if i went with the coilover setup in the front i understand how you can adjust ride height and tahts way cool... but what would i do in the back to be adjustable on all 4s?

installer67

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I'll go take a pic, but I run 205 50 17s and have very little "extra" clearance.

Ok, I did the "finger" check, I have 2 fingers between my tire and fender lip, which translates to about 1 1/2 inches. The pic in my sig shows my ride.

MountainScreamer

You can buy adjustable spring perches for the rear from guess who... RE-Speed!
The rear setup comes with springs, while the front doesn't. So, you would buy shocks, rear coilover kit, front coilover kit, then a pair of front springs for a complete setup.
If this is wrong, anyone who knows, pardon my insanity.

Also can you post pics of your car? I would like to see this 17's on it.

2kilo2

I have tokico blues & rb springs on both front & rear. for my driving style : front is ok, but rear is still bumpy for me. Will get the re-speed rear coilover kit + tokico illumina for stiffness.

installer67

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oops! typo. I'm running 205 50 15s! LOL so the extra 1 1/2 inches should be just right for you.

rxmadness

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two fingers lol i can fit my arm in there lol

installer67

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Ignore the dirt, I'm in the boonies and it rained all day. But as you can see, with 15's I only have a couple inches to fender lip, so with 17's you should be good.