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Old 04-30-03, 05:53 PM
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question, but im new so dont flame me!!

im getting a 1st gen with a second gen 13b engine trans and rear end and i was planning on putting on a t-76 with all the porting and supporting mods and i was wondering which manifold to get and what ecu to get (as long as the ecu isnt over say........1300 bucs) ive searched through the site a bit and i wanted somebody's opinion on this. thx yall
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a second gen ECU goes nicely with a 2nd gen engine...
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First off, the 2nd gen rear-end won't fit on a 1st gen without major modification. Use the rear from an GSL-SE if you can (most start with this car, so that makes it a bit easier)

For the rest..... I wish you luck. Start by reading the sticky at the top of this forum, on putting a TII 13B into 1st gen. As far as ECU's are conserned, you can pick up a fair number of different ones for 1300. I'd look into what local tuners are using, and work with them to get your ecu, and get it tuned right. As far as what alot of people doing a similar swap are running; Haltech, and Microtech seem to be popular, among others.
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a second gen ECU goes nicely with a 2nd gen engine...

true, but....

i was planning on putting on a t-76 with all the porting and supporting mods
I'd like to see him hook up his big fat turbo and ported engine to the MAF that 2nd gens come with
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WHOA there buckeroo yur bout ti blow everyting ta smithereens wit dat dare EEESEEEYOU yee gots.
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Is this 1st gen you are getting already have the 2nd gen rear end? If it does take pics cause I want to fab that conversion up too.







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if you're worried about the turbo, just slap it on and intercool it, get an intercooler off of an old isuzu pup from a junk yard (about $165-$200), best small intercooler ever made...as for the rear end, someone's jerking your chain...you have a first gen rear end, 13b's trannies will line up with 12a's..so you probably have a 12a tranny and EVERYTHING is proibably 12a in it.
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84-88 N/A trannies are the same..
(besides some gearing changes GSL SE)

Isuzu Pup never came Turboed..Sorry game over..
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yea guys im going all out on this one, all drag baby!!! anyways my buddy who has his own shop (hey used to work for mazda back in the day) and has worked on more rx7s then you could believe. he has rotary parts randomly placed everywhere in his shop. he also has some buddies that can do all the fab work i need. actually i think im changing my mind an slapping on a t88 (only like 2 grand) with a spearco intercooler, should be pretty damn quick. well i still have that question about the manifold which one will bolt up to the t76 or t88 (gotta make up my mind) without having to fab an adapter plate.
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Originally posted by Rotary7s
84-88 N/A trannies are the same..
(besides some gearing changes GSL SE)

Isuzu Pup never came Turboed..Sorry game over..
you remind me of a catty woman jeeeez :P

he meant npr im sure. game over


wesvr4 get a custom turbo manifold made up, youre going to need an external wastegate anyhow. whats a $400 mani when the turbo is 2k
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mani??? ummmm explain please. oh i forgot to ad that im gonna have to get titanium apex seals and some bad *** fuel system. any suggestions?
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Originally posted by gamble302
you remind me of a catty woman jeeeez :P

he meant npr im sure. game over


wesvr4 get a custom turbo manifold made up, youre going to need an external wastegate anyhow. whats a $400 mani when the turbo is 2k
Theres a big difrence between a Pup and NPR thats like comparing Spam and T Bone steak..
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Originally posted by wesvr4
mani??? ummmm explain please. oh i forgot to ad that im gonna have to get titanium apex seals and some bad *** fuel system. any suggestions?
mani is short for manifold. you can get a custom turbo manifold made up for around 400 bucks is what i meant. as for titanium seals, all i have to say is uhhhhhhhhhhhhh. im no expert though, so ignore my uhhh. bad *** fuel system is a must though.


and yes "the artistformerly known as sorrow" compairing a pup and an npr is like compairing a flathead v8 and a 428, i know this. you are correct, and kick *** at the internet
when you said sorry game over you reminded me of that realllly annoying weakest link lady. just thinkin of that stupid troll makes we wanna break ****
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I dont know who that lady is..
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i think you gona have to get the manifold custom made or at least get a adapter plate fabed up..

it sounds like u want a pre made mass produced manifold to bolt straight up to them turbo's, in that case try kmart's auto section...
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Originally posted by Rotary7s
I dont know who that lady is..

you are the weakest link. good bye
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oh i think i know what your taking about with that manifold in k mart, its right next to the euro lights and performance stickers. but anyways who should i talk to about that custom manifold (400 is a pretty good price). but anyways i have to say that these parts are so friggin cheap, why the hell dont youall have bad *** cars. ............ well maybe i shouldnt have said that (dont flame me, im still a rookie)
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Originally posted by wesvr4
why the hell dont youall have bad *** cars. ............
the most common answers are:
wifes, children, sorry (or no) job, and lack of time
but other than that we have no real excuses
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[i]Other than that, I'd **** clean. [/B]
ur a dying breed
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ur a dying breed
like highlanders...proablly 200 left in the world
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titanium apex seals right........ uhmmm...... most go carbon, or if you've got really deep pockets, get ceramic seals. At least thats what I'd do, if I had money coming out my ears. And as for being cheap...... just wait a couple of months, these type of projects usually start out seemingly cheap, but get magnitudes more expensive before the projects finished.
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