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Old 05-10-04, 04:39 PM
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nice ground setup too, haha
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the cable setup pulls the engine, my strut setup pushes against it.

the top of the engine torques toward the passenger side.
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That cable looks like some half assed Jeb Clampett **** IMO. I would spend more time on my engine than I did washing my car. Mi Tue Sents, Good Luck
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Is there a strut tower brace that's compatible with camber/caster plates?

Where can you mount an engine torque brace aside from strut bolts?

Which works better? An old Hatch strut or a cable the driver's side? I'd think a hatch strut is too weak.
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disconnect a hatch strut and try pushing it shut with your hand sometime
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Originally posted by Manntis
disconnect a hatch strut and try pushing it shut with your hand sometime
That would be easy!! Who has working hatch struts on their FB's anyways?

j/k I actually forked over $50 for new ones. Ahhhh working hatch, beautiful!
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it was very difficult to install the strut hatch.(trying to compress it to get it in the space) so i'm sure it's doing SOMETHING.
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That hard eh? These the cheapies from the auto parts store ot the OEM ones?

I've pushed down on actual car shocks and they don't seem all that hard. Local store I goto have a KYB AGX strut for demo, right next to the Denso and bosch spark plug, and Lucas oil treatment demos...

I can squeeze the KYB up and down pretty easy.
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Originally posted by BigJim
can someone take some pics of a tribar like the one at cp racing but not like racing beats, i want pics of the kind with bars. I figure why buy for 100 bucks when i can make for 20 so imma make one but i need to see how it mounts everywhere
Here is CP's bar on CP's car.
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Originally posted by Pele
That hard eh? These the cheapies from the auto parts store ot the OEM ones?

I've pushed down on actual car shocks and they don't seem all that hard. Local store I goto have a KYB AGX strut for demo, right next to the Denso and bosch spark plug, and Lucas oil treatment demos...

I can squeeze the KYB up and down pretty easy.

considering it took 2 people(my dad and myself) to compress and put into place after i made the mounts...i'd say it's pretty stiff.
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Well, the hatch struts are quite strong. Even my worn out ones are probably stong enough to hold the engine from moving too much. Takes a lot of strength to compress them.

Pele, I say BS. I tried to compress one before, and it was HARD. It was a stock worn out one from an Olds 88, but it can't be any harder than most others.
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Originally posted by Pele
That hard eh? These the cheapies from the auto parts store ot the OEM ones?

I've pushed down on actual car shocks and they don't seem all that hard. Local store I goto have a KYB AGX strut for demo, right next to the Denso and bosch spark plug, and Lucas oil treatment demos...

I can squeeze the KYB up and down pretty easy.
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Originally posted by Rotary13B1
That would be easy!! Who has working hatch struts on their FB's anyways?
I thought it was really odd at the last Ashland RX-7 meet I went to. I popped the hatch, raised it up, starting lugging an FC tranny out of the back... and noticed I had a small crowd of gawkers.

"Wow, your hatch struts work?"

The rear wiper works too....
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Originally posted by r0tary noob
Hey man. What reason would I have to BS? Perhpas it was just a demonstration KYB AGX shock... I dunno. Alls I know it I went up to it and was able to move it up and down... Not easily be a long shot, but I was able to move it.
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Originally posted by Pele
Hey man. What reason would I have to BS? Perhpas it was just a demonstration KYB AGX shock... I dunno. Alls I know it I went up to it and was able to move it up and down... Not easily be a long shot, but I was able to move it.
if its a demo then Imstand corrected, but i've nevere met a man or woman who could compress a car shock on their own
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Originally posted by Pele
Is there a strut tower brace that's compatible with camber/caster plates?

Where can you mount an engine torque brace aside from strut bolts?
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bump..

Also, FBDrifter, could you post some pics of your mount for the strut, or at least describe them some?

Could it be done with the air pump in place? I need a cat.
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Originally posted by Pele
bump..

Also, FBDrifter, could you post some pics of your mount for the strut, or at least describe them some?

Could it be done with the air pump in place? I need a cat.
BTW, I headed down to the parts store again... I still dunno if that AGX shock is for real or not, but I can compress it... Although I have to put all my weight on it...

I also took a random hood/hatch strut at PepBoys and was able to compress it... It was a small one though, first one I picked up..
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Originally posted by peejay
I thought it was really odd at the last Ashland RX-7 meet I went to. I popped the hatch, raised it up, starting lugging an FC tranny out of the back... and noticed I had a small crowd of gawkers.

"Wow, your hatch struts work?"

The rear wiper works too....
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mine is connected to the water pump and the strut tower.

for the part on the engine itself...i removed one of the stock bolts, which also had a washer. i then removed the washer, and bolted the strut in its place.

for the strut mount i drilled through, and attached a large washer to the inside(under the fender)
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Stupid newbie question: How is a tourqe brace better than stiffer/soild motor mounts??
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torque brace has a better angle on the engine. The torque brace is directly perpendicular to the engines movement.
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anyone have a pic of the RB torqe brace installed?
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Is there a Triangulated strut bar that's compatible with camber/caster plates?
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Originally posted by Pele
Is there a Triangulated strut bar that's compatible with camber/caster plates?
I'm guessing that no responses mean the answer would be a no.



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