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Possible reason for shearing 3rd/5th gear?

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Old 02-20-02, 11:30 PM
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Possible reason for shearing 3rd/5th gear?

I had a hunch on why 3rd gear (and sometimes 5th) seems to like to shear off on GSL-SE's when you go to a puck clutch. I looked at Felix Miata's comprehensive list of the gears used in various Mazda transmissions and this is what I found:

(stolen from http://mrmazda.members.atlantic.net/tranchrt.txt )
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 20:55                                             Rear  Net            Tire RPM @  -Countershaft & Mainshaft Gear Teeth--
   Vehicle     Year  1st   2nd   3rd   4th   5th   Axle Final Tire Size RPM  60 MPH C1  C2  C3  C4  C5  M1  M2  M3  M4  M5 
RX-7          79-83 3.674 2.218 1.433 1.000 0.825 3.909 3.227 185/70-13  892  2878  13  20  25  29  31  28  26  21  17  15
RX-7   GSL-SE 84    3.622 2.186 1.419 1.000 0.758 4.083 3.097 205/60-14  878  2719  13  20  32  37  51  28  26  27  22  23
RX-7          84p   3.622 2.186 1.419 1.000 0.807 3.933 3.175 185/70-13  892  2832  13  20  32  37  50  28  26  27  22  24
RX-7          85    3.622 2.186 1.419 1.000 0.807 3.909 3.156 185/70-13  892  2815  13  20  32  37  50  28  26  27  22  24
RX-7   GSL-SE 85    3.622 2.186 1.419 1.000 0.715 4.077 2.914 205/60-14  851  2480  13  20  32  37  40  28  26  27  22  17
Note that in '84 Mazda went to a different 3rd gear with finer teeth, and 5th gear teeth went finer as well. I wonder if it would be advantageous to use '81-83 transmissions for high powered (or well-abused) FB applications for the stronger, coarser gears in 3rd and 5th. Supposedly (haven't had them apart) they went to larger bearings in '83 for durability, so the '83 transmission is possibly the BEST one to use.

Armed with this knowledge, I might swap my '80 trans in the '85 after all!
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I had an 84 and an 85 both shear 3rd gear so maybe an earlier one might be the ticket. hmm..... maybe some abusive research!
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