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Old 09-04-02, 10:08 PM
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pop-pop-sputtttter -- cat question

Here's my current setup... stock carb w/ all emissions equipment intact, except for the exhaust system. The exhaust is a pace-setter header (modified so it will actually work!) leading into whatever the crap-*** catalytic converter is that came w/ the car and exiting through a pace-setter "Monza" muffler (or should I say megaphone ). The geniuses at the muffler shop said they couldn't make the air line to the cat work w/ my header, so they just welded the air line shut on the cat... therefore, my cat gets no help from the air pump.

The system has run fine this way for about a year now, but as expected, the cat doesn't do much converting. On decelleration I get the usual amount of "pop-pop-sputtttter-pop-pop" from unused fuel (I expect) igniting in the exhaust system.

Now for the question:

If I were to replace the non-functioning cat with a new one and reconnected the air line to it, could I expect the decelleration "pop" to be less noticeable, even more frequent, or unchanged?

Please address your responses with the understanding that I AM going to replace the cat with another cat, not remove it from the equation entirely, as the rest of the emissions setup is still working fine.

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Old 09-05-02, 02:03 AM
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The geniuses at the muffler shop said they couldn't make the air line to the cat work w/ my header, so they just welded the air line shut on the cat... therefore, my cat gets no help from the air pump.
I thought it was illegal for them to modify emission systems?

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Old 09-05-02, 07:01 AM
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Ever rebuilt your carb? If your car is dumping fuel down to your exhaust its more likely to be a problem with ignition timing, or your venturies dumping too much fuel. Just my $.02
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Yeah I was gonna say the only aftermarket cat you will get wont have a air injection port...

Man just scrap the damn cat... It will sound better, and cost you less.
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Originally posted by RotorMotorDriver


I thought it was illegal for them to modify emission systems?

~T.J.

That depends on the ethics of the shop doing the work

Yeah I was gonna say the only aftermarket cat you will get wont have a air injection port...
What do you mean? I've found lots of generic aftermarket 3-way cats with an air line port.. dynomax for example.

Can anyone answer the original question.. should I expect more or less popping? It's not at an obnoxious level right now or anything. I just wouldn't want it to get any more frequent.

When I said it has the crap-*** cat that came w/ the car, I mean the crap-*** replacement cat that the previous owner had installed.
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ASE do you have a bigger pic of the car in your sig? Is that your car?
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ASE, because you have a header it's a two-part answer.

You will get less popping (so it's hardly noticeable at all) - if you get a good cat (like dynomax), and if you get a presilencer installed in your exhaust system. If you only get the cat, I think you'll still get lots of pops.
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Originally posted by genrex

You will get less popping (so it's hardly noticeable at all) - if you get a good cat (like dynomax), and if you get a presilencer installed in your exhaust system. If you only get the cat, I think you'll still get lots of pops.
Can you explain why the presilencer would matter? Would it be mounted before or after the cat?

Wattz: Yes that's my car, but I don't have a bigger pic.. the conversion didn't turn out so well from the picture I took of it. You can also see my '96 Magna in that shot.
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