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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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Unhappy pilot bearing wont go it!!

my pilot bearing went a little bit.. if your looking at the e shaft from the side the bearing is sticking out like a millimeter

i cant get good leverage to get a decent sized swing with the hammer and its not moving

any ideas/suggestions?

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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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use or buy the factory pilot brg. tool. it works really good.
otherwise you might be stuck grinding it out
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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jesus my typing is horrible..

i meant i cant get it IN

does that help?lol
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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680, u on msn or aim...????
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:13 AM
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use a socket slightly smaller than the brg. and it should go in
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:15 AM
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tried that

should it go in easily because it is not moving

its sticking out like a MM from the eshaft...

i did scratch up where it went in but it was not that bad i filed as much of it as i could out

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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:20 AM
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i didnt think mine was gonna fit, but then i put it in the freezer for like 30 mins and i took it out and it went in pretty easily, i still needed some renforcing with the socket and hammer, but it went in pretty easy for the most part. freeze the bitch!
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:20 AM
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its a press fit so it wont be that easy
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:22 AM
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ok, i cant take it out to freeze it.. im gonna go beat the **** outta it..

hopefully it will go in..


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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:26 AM
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i didnt think mine was gonna fit, but then i put it in the freezer for like 30 mins and i took it out and it went in pretty easily, i still needed some renforcing with the socket and hammer, but it went in pretty easy for the most part. freeze the bitch!
thats a good idea, but since he cant get it out..... beating the **** out of it will work too!!!!!!
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:28 AM
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o i didnt realize the situation i guess, i thought you couldnt get it started. sorry

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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:29 AM
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i noticed, where the pilot bearing goes in there is like a lip in there, it dosent seem like the bearing would go past it becase the bearing was hard to get in the main hole... let alone a smaller one deeper in there?.. is the bearing supposed to go past that lip????...

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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:30 AM
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btw im pretty sure the bearing is right up against that lip

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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:35 AM
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its supposed to go in until the edge of the tapered lip
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:36 AM
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the egse of the taperd lip?

could you be more descriptive?

are you talking about where th pilot bearing goes in and in that hole it get smaller and there is a lip?

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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:44 AM
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:46 AM
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so the pilot bearing should be sticking out of the eccentric shaft by 1 mm, and the pilo tbearing seal would be completley out?

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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:51 AM
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no, it needs to go in more
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:52 AM
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how much more?
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:54 AM
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should the pilot bearing seal be flush?
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 01:57 AM
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 02:02 AM
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thanks 680.. sorry if im annoying you..
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 02:06 AM
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no problem, im very tired, working late at the shop... on turbo first gens....
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Old Oct 4, 2003 | 02:07 AM
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helllll yeah.. maybey some day you will work on my first gen
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I once put a pilot bearing into a previously automatice engine. I put it in the freezer for a while untill it was frosty. Before I took it out of the freezer, I wiped an extremely thin coating of oil inside the E shaft. I basically used a very lightly oil soaked rag to wipe out any dust or surface rust that was in the hole. I mean a very light amount of oil. I wiped off the frost and tapped the bearing in with a 9/16 or 14mm socket. Oh yeah, I also heated the E shaft with a propane torch untill it was above room tempurature while the bearing was chillin'. I figured it was better to have a greater temp differential. The bearing tapped in very well. It went in pretty deep. Up to about 1/4" or so. This left plenty of room for the seal which I also froze beforehand as well. It went in well too.

Good luck, and I hope my info can help you in some way.
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