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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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oK I NEED YOUR GUYS HELP DECIDING ON WHAT SPRINGS TO BUY.......

Between Racing Beat or Suspension Techniques? I have heard everyone rave about racing beat (and eibachs as well.. though eibach have discontinued their springs manufacturing for the 1st gen) and i know they sell Suspension Techniques Springs on MAzdaTrix and Black Dragon. This 7 is my daily driver with the soon to be occasional Autocrossing once my suspension has been upgraded. I am defiently going with Tokico Blues for the shocks/struts. What would you guys choose?
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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How heartstrong are you for the autocross? I wish I knew who supplied the stiffer springs. And, doesn't ReSpeed offer Eibach springs? I could've sworn they sold a spring kit.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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well like i said i am gonna be auto crossing her....not very frequently but occasionally....i just want to have it set up correctly so that i can go do that when i want too...also i want the car lowered a bit with the new springs becasue i have way too much fender gap right now!
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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I knew I wasn't going blind. *L*
http://www.mrcmfg.com/respeed/catalo...c0d966649a9a09

Go for these. I've always been a fan of Eibach. You should do well with these.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Cool! I didn't think i was gonna find them for sale....thanks mang!
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Marcello, hit me up on AIM. I will get you in touch with the guy that sold me the Eibachs for Dana's Srt-4. He said he can get the Eibachs for the Rx-7 for just a little bit more than what I paid, and I only paid 189 shipped for hers.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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will do!!
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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Eibach's are progressive, not sure about the RB's but they should be linear, the ST's are linear. What does that mean, well, the progressives start with a soft spot to soak up the little bumps, then move to full stiffness. Linears have the same spring rate all the way through.

Now, if you want adjustability between street and track, go coilovers. ReSpeed just put them up on thier site tonight. Couple those with adjustable shocks, you can do some suspension tuning.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Lots of useful info agaiN! THANKS GUYS!



CHAD GET ON AIM DAMMIT!!! lol
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Yeah yeah, just don't forget us in your will. Or, bring us some cheeseburgers, dammit. Hungry here.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Ya, I'm excited about these respeed coilovers, no need to weld! Still wondering what springs need to be used with them though...

Respeed has quite the line up of parts now and Billy is an awesome awesome guy, doesn't get much better than that!
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Eibach's are progressive, not sure about the RB's but they should be linear, the ST's are linear. What does that mean, well, the progressives start with a soft spot to soak up the little bumps, then move to full stiffness. Linears have the same spring rate all the way through.

Now, if you want adjustability between street and track, go coilovers. ReSpeed just put them up on thier site tonight. Couple those with adjustable shocks, you can do some suspension tuning.
Mazdatrix's website shows St as progressive and Eibachs as linear. Rb's are also linear. Eibach's being the stiffest on the front ones.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Been a while since I've looked at them. My understanding on the Eibachs is there are 2 different sets availible and the Pros are supposed to be progressive. I have the Pros on both the 1st and 2nd gen.

Since I'm sure you have read up on them more recently than I have, I'll defer to your information as being correct.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 11:22 PM
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You are correct on the Eibach pro series being progressive. It's just that Mazdatrix only offers the linear ones. I personally would run the progressive over the linears for combo street/track.
Otherwise with the eibach linears I would need a kidney belt,lol.
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Old Dec 24, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Hey, if you lose one of your kidneys, can I have it after I install some linears?
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Old Dec 25, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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haha .... when i was hunting for those eibach i was told i got the last set available in canada ... how true this is i don't know but i went on everysite that claimed they had them and nothing
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Yes an era has ended. We have just pulled the eibach kits out of the catalog. No longer available through any of our sources.

If you think you will want these at any point you should start calling around looking for stock.

-billy
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Wow, I had a set of Eibachs I was going to run but let them go with a shell I sold. Wish I had a known.

BTW OOT, what did you end up with? I run ST springs with tokico blues... but don't think I could daily drive it around here... but my God it handles great. I also run ST sway bars... and even when I'm on the stock size 205-60-14's HTR-200's it's like a fly on trap paper, stuck.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Try driving for 5 hours while rolling on coil overs/tokico springs and tokico adjustables @ 90+ degrees.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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the rb spring set i have are the spec 7 series... they have six dead coils for adjusting the height... i run them with tokico hp (blues) and have done so for about eight or nine years... used to daily drive it even, and loved it... still do!!!
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Been a while since I've looked at them. My understanding on the Eibachs is there are 2 different sets availible and the Pros are supposed to be progressive. I have the Pros on both the 1st and 2nd gen.

Since I'm sure you have read up on them more recently than I have, I'll defer to your information as being correct.

Yea bro sorry you got that backwards. The St's are progressive. Ok for a DD but dont get them Marcello if you wanna autox. I ran one autox with them and the handling was crap. Ok for the street though. The Eibach pros have deadwound coils which allows ride height and corner weighting by trimming coils without changing spring rate (real good feature). Having driven my IT7 car on the street (only for a week, it was a killer) with 400#+ fronts and 200#+ rears I think youd be good with the Eibachs or the RB springs. Thats what Im looking for for my DD build. Shame the Eibachs are no longer made. I may just end up using trimmed stock springs.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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I've been running Eibach Pro Kits for about a year or so now Daily Driven and I've loved them every minute of it. I got mine off eBay really cheap, like $105 shipped to my door for all 4 corners.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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i would go RB
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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marcello-- i have ST and eibach. i bought my eibachs off ebay. you better look quickly there to see if you can find them. i hate hearing their discontinued, but thats how it goes. so i guess ill hold on to mine for a while esspecially since theyre quarenteed for 1,000,000 miles i think. if i were you id go with ST. i had RB in the past and it didnt lower the car at all. plus ST is progressive so itll be a nice ride around town when youre cruising and then get stiffer when you autox. theyd also look a lot better with those new wheels youve got. my SA had the ST on it when i first got it and i LOVED the stance it had. i love the stance the eibachs have given it. if you can scrounge up a little more money id also get a set of illuminas from respeed. if you get illuminas, id get eibach. if you get HP id get ST.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 12:45 AM
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How many inches do the Eibach's lower the car? Any pics?
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