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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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is it like a normal car? i know our filter sits on top but i mean do u change it like a normal oil change? sorry im new to this
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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yeah of course, it needs oil for lubrication. The thing that is different is rotaries are HARD on oil.. So besure to change it often, unles you have a perpetual oil change car thats so bad you have to keep adding oil then only change the filter once every 3 months LOL
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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well i may change it every 3k miles unless more is needed. not so sure on these engines ya know. im also thinking of usinng pennzoil 10w 30 in it with a fram filter
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 10:49 PM
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my dad was telling me about his first oil change when he had a SA.. didnt poke a hole in the oil filter needless to say, he has a lot of cleaning to do so.. yea, poke a hole on the top of the oil filter. other than that.. same thing.
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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umm poke a hole or not
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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yes, poke the hole.
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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ok im lost why do u poke a hole on the oil filters? on other cars u dont all u do is take out hte drain plug & filter then drain the oil & then top it off again.
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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to let the oil in the filter drain out
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 12:05 AM
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god im lost
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 12:25 AM
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if the filter is upside down it will create some suction that holds oil in the filter
pokeing the hole will relive this suction and let it fall
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 12:37 AM
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Yea, otherwise it makes a big fat mess of oil all over the place
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 12:45 AM
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just do it.. youll save yourself sooo much trouble. my dad did it once and he said it was the biggest pain in the ***. there is oil inside. just like someone said, its a suction.

ok, if you dont understand, do this.

fill a bucket or large object up with water. take a cup and let it get full of water at the bottom of the bucket. now pull it up upside down. when the rim of the cup gets above the water, all of it will fall out of the cup since there is a suction holding it in. same principle. if that makes sence. all of the oil will come out of the filter all over the engine bay. i mean, if you dont care about oil everywhere, i guess it wont hurt anything, but it will make the biggest mess.
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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I usually take a rag and wrap it around the oil filter neck, just under the oil filter. Then I drain the oil at the plug. Take off the filter and clean the surface of where the filter gasket meets the filter neck. Make sure there's a bead of oil around the gasket of the new filter. Just hand tighten it. Put the drain plug back in and add about 4 quarts of new oil. Check the oil level and add more if you need it. Most turbo cars should have their oil changed at 1,000 to 1,500 miles and normal N/A rotaries at no more than 3,000. Rotaries run extremely hot so oil viscosity breakdown can occur a lot quicker. If you live in a hot climate it would be better to change your oil a lot more frequently.
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 12:04 PM
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When changing oil , take a nail or screw and poke a few holes in the top of the filter. Then open the oil drain, it will drain the oil from the oil pan as well as allow oil to settle out of the filter, so when you remove it you dont have a 1/2 quart of oil all over your motor
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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I use the K&N oil filter and I believe it has a oil relief valve so that it dosent have the suction. I have never had a problem with very much oil at all coming out. usually just a very small trickel.
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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Huh...I was wondering what to do with the filtering being on top and all...So...just...poke a hole on the top...

haha....cool. xD
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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ok, this will probably confuse people more, but I'll throw in my experience. I didn't poke a hole the last time I changed the filter to see what would happen. If you slowly unscrew it a few turns and leave it for a moment you'll hear all the oil drain out of it, then you can just take it off the rest of the way. So *technically* you don't have to poke the hole.
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Old Dec 28, 2002 | 02:43 AM
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but, umm....(and im new here so please forgive...)...wouldnt taking off the oil filler cap achieve the same purpose, since its higher in elevation than the filter?
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Old Dec 28, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by morpheus
but, umm....(and im new here so please forgive...)...wouldnt taking off the oil filler cap achieve the same purpose, since its higher in elevation than the filter?
You'd think but it doesnt work that way... Maybe the fact that all the other stuff is in the path, a few poke holes is a direct approach to it...
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Old Dec 28, 2002 | 12:46 PM
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On my last oil and filter change, I didn't spill a drop from the filter. I was really carefull and rotated the engine by hand slightly to let the oil in the pedastal drain down as I lifted the filter off the threaded part. I guess I was compensating for the time I made a mess, even with a rag wrapped around the pedastal.

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/oil_filter_study/
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 05:20 AM
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I use Purolator filters (except the damn Fram on there now ). I got some for Christmas .

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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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What model Purolator filter?
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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I was at Advanced Auto Parts the other day and they had a K&N oil filter for $10! holy hell...are they even worth it?
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by nucentz
ok im lost why do u poke a hole on the oil filters? on other cars u dont all u do is take out hte drain plug & filter then drain the oil & then top it off again.
Rule #1:

NEVER compare RX-7's to the average car. lol
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by faye x7
I was at Advanced Auto Parts the other day and they had a K&N oil filter for $10! holy hell...are they even worth it?
Personally, I think that's a load of bull.
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