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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Question NOS on an SE ?

What is involved on running say a 75 shot of NOS (wet) on an SE? Walbro 255, Ign Retard, Has any one done this what is the procedure? Thanks
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Tapping foggers into the intake runners?

I wouldn't feel the need for fuel upgrades. A "wet" shot supplies extra fuel when needed. You'll have all the pressure you need with an SE pump.

Retard the ignition a little if you want. But a 75hp shot isn't to hard core.

Not much of a procedure.
Just buy a good fogger kit. and pretend you're installing it on a civic. If your motor is in good shape it'll hold up just fine.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Out of curiousity, How much Nitrous can the injected SE 13B take?

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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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NOS is the brand name for nitrous oxide systems. You want to add NO to your SE?
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 84RX7'nSTi
Out of curiousity, How much Nitrous can the injected SE 13B take?

Mike
There is no exact number where you will blow your motor up. To many variables.

A well set up 75 wet shot, on a motor in good shape should be safe and last a long time.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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i know a kid spraying a 200 shot on a stock TII motor with upgraded fule system
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex-7
There is no exact number where you will blow your motor up. To many variables.

A well set up 75 wet shot, on a motor in good shape should be safe and last a long time.
I'm not looking for safe........

Will it handle a wet 250HP shot a couple times?

Mike
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Old May 8, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 84RX7'nSTi
I'm not looking for safe........

Will it handle a wet 250HP shot a couple times?

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Maybe! Do it!

Now look into your crystal ball and tell me exactly how long I'll live if I keep smoking two packs a day.

Will I make 60? yes or no?
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Old May 8, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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either the engine will go or tranny or both. let us know.

Originally Posted by 84RX7'nSTi
I'm not looking for safe........

Will it handle a wet 250HP shot a couple times?

Mike
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Old May 8, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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^^^^
Haha, I am debating..........

Selling the running SE for parts or having some fun.

Mike
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Old May 8, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 84RX7'nSTi
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Haha, I am debating..........

Selling the running SE for parts or having some fun.

Mike
How good of shape is the SE? And how much would you be asking?
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Old May 8, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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If you have a running SE, don't be an *** and blow it. Sell it to someone who will care for it.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Normality_Glitch
How good of shape is the SE? And how much would you be asking?
The car has 74K original miles, the engine is strong, we recently had to gut-out the pre-cat. because it was clogged and the transmission has about 2K on its rebuild from Tri-point engineering. The body is very good, there is no rust, but the paint is faded. The interior has been removed. Just this weekend the front hubs/brakes, rear brakes, complete rear axle and wheels have been swapped. The car now has my '84 GS's equipment. The only item that remains to be exchanged is the parking brake cables.

So, the SE will only be half of an SE.

I'm not sure how much I would sell it for yet, if that is the decision. If I do, I will be posting detailed pictures of it's condition.

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Old May 8, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by John64
If you have a running SE, don't be an *** and blow it. Sell it to someone who will care for it.
Real enthusiasts drive their cars till they blow!







No, I'm kidding.

My SE's life, will likely continue in someone else's possesion.

Mike
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Old May 8, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 84RX7'nSTi
The car has 74K original miles, the engine is strong, we recently had to gut-out the pre-cat. because it was clogged and the transmission has about 2K on its rebuild from Tri-point engineering. T
Mike

If you go to U-Pick U-Pull in Sun Valley (5 Fwy @ tuxford exit), there is a GSL-SE that has a stock manifold with straight pipe (no cat). I left it alone as I have no use for it. I only took the oil pan and the igniters.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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I've been running a 75 shot on my 83 GSL from day number 7 of ownership. The rotary seems to LOVE the juice, if properly modded to handle the demands it will hold up to it with no issues. On a more or less stock car, I'd say run no more than 75.

Speaking of mods. I just got my turbo and manifold in today. Anyone interested in purchasing a NX wet kit? [devilish laugh]
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Old May 8, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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Thanks For the Input, just what I was looking for.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Timmybighands, any pics of your set up??
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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Lol - photos will do you no good. I've got the car ripped down to nothing right now installing turbo bits.

Here's the setup though. The bottle is mounted in the back with the valve pointing to the front of the car right between both passenger and driver. The braided line runs under the carpet down the passengers side and through an existing hole in the firewall to the N20 solenoid. I have a T fitting on the secondary fuel line (because you shouldnt spray until your secondaries are open anyway) that runs to my fuel solenoid.

Fuel solenoid is mounted to the firewall right behind the intake hat. The purge and N20 solenoids are mounted to the passngers side fenderwell.

The rest of it is simply wiring and switches. I have a WOT switch that activates the solenoids only when the arming switch is on, and a momentary purge switch that purges the line as long as you hold the button down... It's really quite simple. It took me less than 4 hours to do a QUALITY install on it.

I'm running a 75 shot now, but I suspect I could pound 100 through her with no problems.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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The mostI have run before it went pop was 125.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Nitrous Oxide is only good for jet boats. imop
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholas P.
Nitrous Oxide is only good for jet boats. imop
As in Jet Turbine??? WTF?
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholas P.
Nitrous Oxide is only good for jet boats. imop

you must not drive anything fast...caz nitrous will only make whatever you got faster...
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Old May 8, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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ive been looking into a 75 shot, just for fun. But its eiter NO, a rebuild, or fixing the exterior damage so i think im going to run it with NO till it blows, (its at 171,000 already) then rebuild and start over.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 11:04 PM
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I tested the 75 shot at the track on my 10th day of owning the car. 75 is most definetly fun... and adds QUITE a bit of power.

For comparisons sake, I ran TWO nitrous runs and two no nitrous runs at the track back to back. With only headers, my times were 17.3 and 17.5 unassisted... Then I ran two with only the 75 shot, I ran a 15.7 in the quarter both times. Not bad. Almost 2 seconds off my overall time!
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