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Old Jul 29, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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No Brakes

Geez one thing after another these days! So I have no brakes. I swapped over a different master cylinder I had around that I thought worked but the pedal still goes to the floor.

The back story is I put in brand new calipers in the front, new stainless steel brake lines, and switched to DOT-4 fluid for the higher temperature rating. Brakes faded very quickly after that. I don't have any fluid leaking around any of the fittings. I have bled all 4 corners several times and am confident I have no air in the system.

The only variable I can think of is can a brake booster go bad and cause the pedal to goto the floor? Other possibility is both masters are bad.

Without the car running I can get pretty good pressure to build, but once the car is started the pedal goes right to the floor.
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 82FanTC

The only variable I can think of is can a brake booster go bad and cause the pedal to goto the floor? Other possibility is both masters are bad.

Without the car running I can get pretty good pressure to build, but once the car is started the pedal goes right to the floor.
both masters are bad...
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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 04:36 AM
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….or at the very least, poorly bled. The brake master needs to be bench-bled (see youtube) first or they are an absolute Bee-otch to get all the air out off once mounted…
Know your pain. And: Went thru 2 "new" master cylinders (non-mazda - won't do THAT again!) before I got a solid one.

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Old Aug 2, 2014 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 7aull
….or at the very least, poorly bled. The brake master needs to be bench-bled (see youtube) first or they are an absolute Bee-otch to get all the air out off once mounted…
Know your pain. And: Went thru 2 "new" master cylinders (non-mazda - won't do THAT again!) before I got a solid one.

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Thank you for that.
When preparing to remove the 12a, the break master decided on its own to drain out on the floor.
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