1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Nikki Trouble Shooting, Please Help!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:34 PM
  #1  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
Nikki Trouble Shooting, Please Help!!

i just finished putting on my nikki carb, it is exactly the same as how it was when i took it off, and it was tuned, so i dont want to mess with a/f ratios. or my idle speed. ive got two problems. it cant hold an idle, so i thought it was a vacuum leak, so i remade the two gaskets between the carb and mani. but it did fix it.

and my second problem is when im try to warm it up, i will hold the throttle in place, and it will stay at a certain rpm, but then it will die off. but if i go up to above like 2500it wont. and when driving im having a really hard time accelerating, it wont go over a certain rpm in any gear, so i canm only 55-60 in 5th.

i think the second problem could be related to fuel pressure, because its the only thing thats been modified. but it only seems like it runs out of fuel for a second, because i drove it for a while after i got it up to speed, and it didnt seem like it was bogging or like starving for fuel. although it wasnt ver smooth either.

FYI, i did search, but ive come up with nothing, so i hope you guys can help me, and no, i didnt mess with my float levels.lol.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:59 PM
  #2  
Kentetsu's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,359
Likes: 14
From: Grand Rapids Michigan
How long was the carb off of the car? It almost sounds like your jet(s) are clogged. When that happened to me, I could accelerate if I did it slowly enough, and could even drive at highway speeds. But give it too much gas and it would start to die off.

When I'm warming up my car, it also will start to bog if I hold the rpms steady. I have to keep revving it a bit to keep it from doing this. I'm not sure why, but this has been the same with most carb'd cars that I've owned.

Verify that you still have leading ignition, and check your timing too. That's about all I can think of at the moment. Good luck.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 01:04 PM
  #3  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
thanks, will do. and the jets may be clogeed, the carb was off for a while.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 09:58 AM
  #4  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Moderator
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,835
Likes: 3,232
From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
1st step in trouble shooting any carb is to make sure the ignition works and you have no vacuum leaks.

i rebuilt the carb on my 83 twice but that didnt fix the big chunk of air pump stuck in the acv... the jets dont meter fuel when theres no vacuum signal
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 01:00 PM
  #5  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
ok, well i checked for vacuum leaks, and i couldnt find any, and i checked the leading ignition,and its there. i played with the a/f's and idle speed a little, but made no headway.im thinking maybe if sprayed carb cleaner through the jets would that work, or no?? im up or anything. thanks for the help thus far.

edit: i know the timing is ok, cause it ran fine before, and i havent touched it.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 01:56 PM
  #6  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Moderator
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,835
Likes: 3,232
From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
if you spray a little carb cleaner into the carb and it picks up, its too lean. if you spray some in there and it dies, its too rich....
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 02:27 PM
  #7  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
can i use carb cleaner to check for a vacuum leak, i thought you could, and i sprayed it around the carb and got nothing, but when i sprayed it in, it didnt do anything either.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 04:24 PM
  #8  
cdrad51's Avatar
Lorem ipsum dolor sit ame
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,262
Likes: 1
From: The Net
So tell me more about how was the fuel pressure modified?
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 07:55 PM
  #9  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
i have an aftermarket fuel pump with an mallory fpr.

i came up with the idea, that maybe my secondaries arent working properly. i know the stayed closed the whole time, becuase there was a little bit of fuel pooled, in them, and this could be causing my poor performance...right??
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 08:05 PM
  #10  
blwfly's Avatar
kiwi from downunder..
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,423
Likes: 5
From: springfield,oregon
defintly lol do u have mech secondarys do the secondarys evan turn when u pull the linkage
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 10:34 PM
  #11  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
i thought so, but im going to go check again right now.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 11:22 PM
  #12  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
yea, the secondaries are froze closed. does anyone know how to un-stick them without bending the linkage??
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 12:32 AM
  #13  
trochoid's Avatar
Old Fart Young at Heart
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,145
Likes: 8
From: St Joe MO
Use carb cleaner on the inside of the carb and the outside to clean off any gunk buildup, then P B Blaster to free up the linkage. Don't force the linkage and look for any binding that is preventing it from working. Download the carb manual from the archives and compare your linkage to the exploded diagrams.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 04:43 PM
  #14  
cdrad51's Avatar
Lorem ipsum dolor sit ame
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,262
Likes: 1
From: The Net
Originally Posted by perfect_circle
i have an aftermarket fuel pump with an mallory fpr.
And you have the pressure set at?
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 06:53 PM
  #15  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
its around 2- 2.5

i got the secondaries unstuck, and now when i start it, the revs jump to like 3k, and then slowly go down. like the throttle is stuck. i dont see any binding, the cable itself is free, and i dont understand how the sticky secondaries would effect it at all, seen as how the wont open until its under load.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 08:46 PM
  #16  
cdrad51's Avatar
Lorem ipsum dolor sit ame
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,262
Likes: 1
From: The Net
Any reason for that fuel pressure setting? Stock fuel pump is 2.84 - 3.54 psi.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 08:52 PM
  #17  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
i cant get it to change, i dont have the resistor in the return line, and im not using the return on my fpr. i adjust the screw, and it doesnt do anything. i think i may need a new filter.

i still cant get it to idle. no matter how much i turn it either way, it doesnt seem to effect the idle, but i can throttle and it will run at 800, not consistantly, but i dont think its a vacuum leak, then when i satb the throttle,it will slowly rise to like 3k, the even go down even slower. it seems like its getting to much fuel from the shot of the AP, cause the linkage comes closed right away.

Last edited by perfect_circle; Aug 5, 2006 at 08:58 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 10:41 PM
  #18  
cdrad51's Avatar
Lorem ipsum dolor sit ame
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,262
Likes: 1
From: The Net
Sticking float needles maybe?
Reply
Old Aug 7, 2006 | 11:19 PM
  #19  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
does anyone have any idea what would be causeing the rpms to stay elevated?
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 01:31 AM
  #20  
Kentetsu's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,359
Likes: 14
From: Grand Rapids Michigan
Fuel leaking into the system somehow, or throttle linkage sticking, or vacuum leak. Do the butterflies close all the way when you are looking down into the carb? Actually, the primaries should be slightly open I think but the secondaries must be fully closed.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 02:10 AM
  #21  
perfect_circle's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary Freak
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,604
Likes: 1
From: Land Of Confusion southern MI, USA
i dont know about the fule leaking, but im pretty sure that the linkage is not sticking, and im also pretty sure that the secondaries are completely closed. it could be a vaccum leak, but i have checked several times, so im not sure, im going to take a nother look at it in the morning.
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2006 | 02:23 AM
  #22  
Kentetsu's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,359
Likes: 14
From: Grand Rapids Michigan
Take a length of tubing (even a garden hose will work) and put one end to your ear. Use the other end to listen around the carb and intake. Works like a stethoscope, you'll hear everything. I could never get the carb spray method to work for me...
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FC3S Timmy
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
16
Oct 3, 2015 01:08 AM
Rotafuzz
New Member RX-7 Technical
3
Sep 30, 2015 09:55 AM
Red-Dragon_Akuma
New Member RX-7 Technical
11
Sep 28, 2015 06:09 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:58 AM.