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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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new thread.. wheel questions

my situation is, the wheels i want only come in 4x100 and 4x114.3. one of those fits a gsl-se. i already have the gsl-se rear axle (done by previous owner) but i have the 4x110 on the rear and the front, (doesnt make sence to me) should i find a car in the junk yard and swap axles.. could someone help me out with ideas? i have disk brakes all the way around.

edit: 85 gs 12a. (like i said, gsl-se rear axle)
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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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If you have 4x110mm all around then the previous owner swapped in a GSL rear end, not the SE rear. GSL rears have disks and limited slip and the same pattern as a GS. To confirm this, look at your rear brake rotors, if its a GSL not SE rear they will not be vented. As for wheels, there are a few that will fit our oddball pattern, just search hard and long, you'll find em. good luck
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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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82transam is right, if you have the 110mm bolt pattern, it's not the SE rear.

a surefire way to tell, just by looking, is if your discs are vented. the SE discs are vented, all the other Rx-7 discs are not. SE's also have studs coming out of the hubs.
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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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i understand, the previous owner probably stated gsl, and i figured gsl-se. but yes, i have a lsd, and 4X110.

how hard would it be to convert to 4x100?
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convert?
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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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The previous owner could have just swapped the Pumpkin from a GSL-SE, without swapping the axles and brakes.
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Old Oct 13, 2002 | 10:06 PM
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i guess the gsl-se is 4x114.3. is it possible to convert my lug patern, example, putting gsl-se front brake rotors on my car / smae thing on the rear. would that work?
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 09:52 AM
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anyone??? this would be really helpfull
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 02:12 PM
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Yes, you can swap teh SE suspension into a non SE. Its a lot of work, and is also pricey, if your lucky enough to find a donor car. Unless you have a lot of both time and money just fine wheels that will fit the current suspension.
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ims aying though, its not the suspension im after, its the lug patern, is it possible to just swap brake rotors? or is that way off?
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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not JUST the brake rotors ... you could get the parts individually, but you'd be much better off just find a donor so you can snag the WHOLE rear end, and the two front strut assemblies (with the brakes on it)
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As far as I know you would have to swap it all. Which actually would be good, since the SE suspension is way better.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 05:15 PM
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i have kyb shocks, and im between eibach or racing beat springs, so getting the suspension isnt really a big thing becasue it would be getting replaced anyway.

i was thinking i could just get some of this stuff from someone who is parting out a car since i see that happening alot even though the rear axle is the first thing to go.
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by diabolical1
not JUST the brake rotors ... you could get the parts individually...

but the question is..

would gsl-se brake rotors fit on my gs front stut assembly, and gsl rear axle so i would have the 4x114.3 bolt patern?
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Don't think so, you'd have to buy the SE suspension, even if you are gonna upgrade, the stuff is all different.
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Originally posted by onepointone
the question is..

would gsl-se brake rotors fit on my gs front stut assembly, and gsl rear axle so i would have the 4x114.3 bolt patern?
i might be mistaken, but it will fit, but you'd need the mounting plates/brackets for the calipers, bearings, the calipers, etc., etc ...

frankly, why would you put yourself through that when it would be far simpler just swapping the whole assemblies? i doubt if anyone would be willing to break apart their SE rear or front strut assembly, just to supply you with tidbits to convert brakes only.

maybe it's just me ...
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It might be possible, the info I've been providing is just what i've read about it. I've never done it nor would i want to. A GSL rear end swap is enough for me. besides my favorite wheels, panasports, are available in 4x110
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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well, i agree. a GSL rear is all i want. i'm pretty partial to the stock aluminum 13's (polished), as long as i've got good brakes and some really GOOD tires ... i'm straight. although ... i've always liked the Panasports, too ...
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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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hehe, if i had $1200 to blow I'd buy a set of panasports with some mad sticky tires. Oh well, maybe someday. I agree totally, the stock rims in good shape (like the ones I just restored) look really good. Now all I gotta do is get a set of eibach springs so I can get the GSL rear swap underway.....
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what is the difference between the gsl-se and gsl rear end in the pumkin area? and elsewhere?
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I've never seen the two side-by-side, but I think the SE's rear is beefed up, plus it has a differnt ratio along with differnt brakes. I could be wrong, but I doubt much is interchangeable between the two.
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the SE rear has a different final drive ratio, and has the bigger vented disc/caliper setup. other than that, i don't think there are any other differences. i think they use the same axles, which are thicker than the regular drum-equipped rears ....
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Originally posted by 82transam
hehe, if i had $1200 to blow I'd buy a set of panasports with some mad sticky tires. Oh well, maybe someday. I agree totally, the stock rims in good shape (like the ones I just restored) look really good. Now all I gotta do is get a set of eibach springs so I can get the GSL rear swap underway.....
I have a local guy selling a MINT set of 15x7 Panasports with Brand new Tires for like $550. If you're interested, PM me and I'll give you his email address.

He Bought my old "Organ Donor" and is swapping his suspension to the SE one.
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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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I have a local guy selling a MINT set of 15x7 Panasports with Brand new Tires for like $550. If you're interested, PM me and I'll give you his email address.

He Bought my old "Organ Donor" and is swapping his suspension to the SE one.
hold the phone! are these for 4x110?! 12a?!!!? sounds like i'm about to blow a wad of cash!
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