TheOdditie

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I will add I know JJ spends a lot of time on his phone, so I would suggest emailing him if you are interested and know what you would like to see made available.

TheOdditie

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Guys, if your really interested, please e-mail or call these guys. I can't stress enough how much of a difference an outside customer asking about this can make over an employee asking because thats what he drives.

Ghooble

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Sorry if this a bit off topic but I was looking for a spring to raise my car about 1-2". Right now it's lowered on some Tokico's from the P.O. and was wondering if Mustang springs/shocks would raise it? Or if anyone knows of some springs that would do so without the ride being the world's stiffest car. I don't mind mildly stiff.

hoang5659

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whats the deal? are we going to have a new option for suspension parts? looking for some new shox...

TheOdditie

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As I mentioned earlier, we have a set in to spec out. The guy that will do it has been on the road a lot recently so hasn't had much time to work on it. Currently I only know of me asking them for them, which doesn't motivate them nearly as much as outside people requesting it to happen.

In a previous post I included the contact information and who you need to talk to. Plus send an e-mail in requesting this to happen and what you would like to see. Keep in mind these guys are busy, especially the street guy because it's only him and its a big market, but don't hesitate to follow-up with them if you haven't heard anything in awhile.

TheOdditie

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Alright, JJ is back in the shop and I will try to get with him on these shocks again soon. Things have been hectic here the past couple weeks.

PM me what you are looking for in a shock and I will get with the guys on it. Please don't hesitate to PM me guys, the more proof I have of interest the better and quicker this will happen.

TheOdditie

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I am wanting this to happen as much as you guys, it just helps to be able to show how many are interested.

And please, if you are going with a lower ride height, let us know how much lower its going and we should be able to accommodate the shock so its done right, no sloppy springs and no robbing you of shock travel you could be using. We currently have stock shocks to measure so we will be going off of that when it gets spec'd out.

TheOdditie

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UPDATE: I just talked with the guy that will make this happen. Things have been busy lately and he has spent a lot of time out of the shop, and still has some more to do, but he hasn't forgotten about us and plans to work on this soon. He said he has had a couple calls, even one guy with a RX3 w/7 suspension on it.

I learned today my 7 is in bad need of front struts as that is what is making my clunking noise in the RF. I was able to compress the strut easy by lifting the wheel by hand and when you let you, it bottoms out with a nice thud! So I will be trying to push this to happen sooner than later.

TheOdditie

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Got informed yesterday that we may have someone setup to make some spindles to accept our strut insert. He said he ran across another Rx-7 guy that makes his own spindles for Koni inserts and is tired of any time an adjustment needs to be made having to tear the whole thing down. So he has the specs of our inserts and is working on modifying his spindle to work with our inserts which unless you want to change the valving itself, you will be able to adjust it with it still mounted in the car.

So progress is being made on this guys. I will keep everyone updated on it.

hoang5659

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what do you have in the way of rear coilovers? any thing happening on that part?

flight_of_pain

Hoang, go look in the "spring preferences" thread. Rear coilovers have been discussed in detail multiple times.


Isaac

TheOdditie

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Sorry, we have been busy lately and haven't had a chance to work on them. It will be happening soon, I promise.

My company is working on a full set of shocks for our cars, and not shocks that either have to be torn down every time to adjust or only have 5 clicks of adjustment. Now if you go with a non-adjustable shock from us, yes it will have to be torn down to get revalved the way you want, but any of our adjustable shocks can be adjusted with them still on the car.

flight_of_pain

Any aftermarket shock can be used as a rear coilover with a little extra hardware, and still retain all of its adjustment. Don't get me wrong odditie, I think what you are trying to do is awesome, and I hope it comes to fruition, but the ratio of people saying, "I am going to make (insert whatever hot item) for 1st gens," to the availability of said products is woefully slim.

Isaac

TheOdditie

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Indeed you can slap a coilover kit on most any shock, but that doesn't get the same effect since the shock was not designed to be a coilover and most people use coilovers incorrectly. Most people will use the adjustment on the coilover to achieve their desired ride height, when the true purpose of it is to adjust the preload on the spring, which changes how the spring behaves.

A true coilover shock will be built for the correct shock travel at a set spring preload for your intended ride height. Then you can adjust the collar to change the spring preload setting. Like when you go and get a car corner balanced, you will adjust one collar one way to get the weight you want, and then adjust another to get the height back where it needs to be.

I'm sure there are much better ways to say what I'm trying to say, can't spend too much time on here while I'm at work and got a million other things flying through my head at the moment, but you should get the idea of it.

And it really wasn't directed at you, just in general.

I understand people saying they are going to make something and then never come through. I am doing my best to make sure this does happen and trying to keep everyone updated so no one thinks its another forgotten project. We makes shocks for anything you can think of and usually running around 100 mph everyday trying to get everything done, and I've just been trying to push this those few times when we slow down for a minute.

flight_of_pain

I understand how a coilover works, and the positives and negatives of adjustment types , that is why I wish you the best of luck. If you can bring your product in at a reasonable pricepoint I am sure it will sell quickly.

Isaac

TheOdditie

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That's why I added it wasn't aimed at you, just a lot of people misuse coilovers. I can't even count myself out of that category because I did use coilovers on my other car to lower it instead of putting the money out on a real set.

The pricepoint is one of things I'm waiting to see, which we won't know until we actually start putting one together and see what all pieces are going into it. The more adjustments, the more money because of more parts going into it.

Oh and please don't take me for a shock guru or a salesperson. As I've mentioned before, I only work in the warehouse and drive a FB and would like to see this happen and working with the real shock gurus on it.

10cc

So, does anybody know where to get BZ 1086's and BE 2317's? Seems to be none around. Been using these on a '85 RX-7 race car with 400lb front and 200lb rear springs. They are not the best, but they work for a while, and are easy to replace. Just can't find any!!!

tasty danish

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I'm very interested in this. I may not be an actual customer for a few months, but I'm keeping my eye on this thread.

FWIW, I don't think the 1st gen needs a shock CHEAPER than the illumina. We need a real shock. Koni reds (even some yellows) and tokicos are kinda crap

Having serious quality shocks makes a HUGE difference especially if you run high spring rates. I had custom valved bilsteins on my turbo miata and it totally changed the way I look at suspension. So kudos to you for offering a real piece of kit.

TheOdditie

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I can tell you right now that they won't be cheaper than Illumina's, in all ways. All of our parts are made here in the US so there are no cheap 10 cent parts in the shock. These are serious shocks and we have already heard several people very interested in them. When we make them, the only time you should have to replace them is if your get in an accident and mess some stuff up. Beyond that everything is easily rebuild able, so its worth the investment.

TheOdditie

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For some reason that is ringing a bell but no clue why. What are they?

10cc

Those are the Tokico Illumina adjustables. The BE 2317 are the rears, and the BZ 1086 are the front. Tokico also makes (made?) BZ 1069, but they aren't good enough for the higher spring rates.

If you guys are going to build shocks to fit the '82 - '85, I am interested, as well as a few other guys up here still racing our 1st gens

TheOdditie

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That's why. I remember seeing it when I was looking that stuff up ages ago.

We are working on it, taken a little longer than I expected, but has given time to get more people interested in it. I know there are a lot of these cars out on tracks that could use a real shock under them. I'm hoping we will really get the ball rolling in the next week or so. Currently waiting to hear from the guy on the spindle.

tasty danish

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That's what I gathered. In case I wasn't clear, I don't feel the FB's have a real shock offering on the market and it seems your company may finally make one.

10cc

As far as shocks go, we need to use the stock strut assembly, ie: the spindle and shock tube, according to our rules, so the shock has to have OEM dimensions. The other thing is the top end. None of us use the stock upper fitting, and most use Ground Control camber kits, so with the BZ 1086, we use a small bushing to make them fit.

TheOdditie

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Well that is going to be interesting. Our strut insert is larger than the stock strut tube. What class are you racing? That was one of the things I couldn't figure out is what class most 7s are racing to figure out what can be done.