1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

My RX7 is bogging, NEED HELP!!!!!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:00 PM
  #1  
2Lucky2tha7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Back at it again!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
From: Western Colorado
Exclamation My RX7 is bogging, NEED HELP!!!!!!!!

I got an 83 gsl that I just started working on. It'll start right up and after it warms up, it'll idle just fine, but anytime I go to give it any more than say, 15% throttle, it starts to bog, and for Godsakes, if I even try to floor it, it'll just die out. Now,obviously this sounds like a fuel problem, but the problem is that it's been 10 - 20 degrees out lately (tonight is supposedly gonna be between -30 to -50 below out (wind chill factor). So as you can see, I don't exactly wanna be out in the freezing cold trying to diagnose this annoyance. My guesses are: bad fuel pump, another bad filter, dirty (small) filter(s) in the fuel line that enters the Nikki carb, or a gummed up carburetor........possibly even something ignition related too---such as the Crane Cams low impedance spark plug wires on there. Any help and/or insight would be greatly appreciated!!
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:02 PM
  #2  
Steve Shulz's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
From: Gig Harbor, WA
Carb rebuild.
Reply
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:49 PM
  #3  
Matty's first 1st Gen's Avatar
Boosted 7
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 824
Likes: 1
From: Mississauga, Ontario
sometimes when it gets really cold, my carb gets screwed too, make sure your exhaust heated air intake pipe, and snorkel works to keep the air going in the engine warm
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 05:28 AM
  #4  
inittab's Avatar
I read your email
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,624
Likes: 1
From: NW New Jersey
You're on the right track.

It could also be that your accelerator pump my need some attention. When it warms up, have someone pump the gas pedal while you look down the carb. Do you see a mist of gas? If not, then you probably need a new AP. If the carb has never been rebuilt then you might want to consider it. There are some other guys on this forum that are way better with the Nikki's than I so hopefully they'll chime in with their own 2 cents. Good luck!
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:35 AM
  #5  
KehoeAutomotive's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 505
Likes: 2
From: New Orleans, LA
Tha Mazda God demands sacrifice!!!!!

If the Mazda Gods demand it, then get out into the cold and pay your pinnance, sinner.

On most carbs if the accelerator pump is bad, the car will bog down upon a quick change in the throttle plate but will make a smooth rev upon gentle acceleration.

The Nikki seems to be a pretty good carb to me. Wonder if the aftermarket carbs provide all of that promised horsepower on a engine with minor modifications.
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:40 AM
  #6  
Rx7carl's Avatar
Airflow is my life
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,736
Likes: 2
From: Orlando, Fl
Sounds like a possible accelerator pump problem. Operate the throttle and look to see if its squirting fuel out of the nozzles.
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 03:33 PM
  #7  
2Lucky2tha7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Back at it again!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
From: Western Colorado
Alright, here's what I forgot to mention..... I just finished doing the rat's nest removal, along with the switch-over to making the secondaries "mechanical". I also "shimmed" the accelerator pump with 3 gaskets per side, just as Sterling suggested in his writeup. But, here's where the problem lies......the car runs almost the exact same way as it did prior to any of this work, and yeah, I checked to see if the accelerator pump was working properly as well.......(mass confusion!! )
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 03:40 PM
  #8  
inittab's Avatar
I read your email
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,624
Likes: 1
From: NW New Jersey
oops..... ya forgot just a few minor details
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:53 PM
  #9  
2Lucky2tha7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Back at it again!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
From: Western Colorado
Inittab, I agree with your suggestion about rebuilding the carb, just not too excited about doing another one. The biggest problem I had was getting all that damn gasket material off both sides of that plastic somethin or another plate thats between the carb and manifold, the rest wasn't all that bad though. Oh well, I'll see what I can come up with though. Thanks for your help guys
Reply
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:59 PM
  #10  
2Lucky2tha7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Back at it again!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
From: Western Colorado
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 10:11 AM
  #11  
Rx7carl's Avatar
Airflow is my life
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,736
Likes: 2
From: Orlando, Fl
Well is the accel pump working or not?????
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 11:18 AM
  #12  
2Lucky2tha7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Back at it again!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,324
Likes: 0
From: Western Colorado
Yeah, the accel pump is working. I'm thinking that I should just go ahead and rebuild this one, judging by the way how rough it's running. ---- I do, however, have a problem with the way the choke is working. Before I removed the rats nest, going by the tutorial on the MAZSPEED website, the choke seemed to work fine, now it hardly works at all. I didn't remove or mess with any cables, and I remember capping every source of vacuum that wasn't going to be used, as well as rechecking all of my work. The choke plate is still operating the same, and it idles only slightly higher (like 50 rpm's), but it still wants to die out. The only extra carb accessory that I removed was that vacuum operated dashpot looking thing that's used for the A/C.
Well, if anyone has any input, let me know.
Thanks
Reply
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 11:33 AM
  #13  
Rx7carl's Avatar
Airflow is my life
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,736
Likes: 2
From: Orlando, Fl
The emissions removal tutorial doesnt not affect the choke in any way. Maybe you knocked something off accidentally while doing all this work. That where my money is.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Th0m4s
Build Threads
25
Feb 26, 2019 02:04 AM
sip
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
19
Sep 7, 2015 03:33 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:08 AM.