1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Is my Nikki really this cold natured?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 04:01 PM
  #1  
Crispin38's Avatar
Thread Starter
o.O
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 871
Likes: 2
From: 64865
Is my Nikki really this cold natured?

It's my first winter with my Nikki. First off it's completely stripped and naked. No choke or nothing, so I understand that since I have no choke in the cold it's going to be quite a PITA to start and warm up, but I didn't expect it to be as drastic as it's been. Like today, after not driving it for 7 hours I startted it up after school, I pumped twice, started right up and died, and did that again about three times till it stayed running. This has been normal. It struggles to idle cold, when it hasn't been driven for a while. Idling cold it idles just above 1000 rpm, or struggles too. Then warm it idles PERFECTLY at just below 2000 rpm. Keep in mind this stripped Nikki is on my Full Monster port.. I know or at least I think my Idle mixture is set right.
I'm also running Wasted spark ignition. If that matters.. Let me know if you have any questions that could further help you conclude.

Thanks,
-Crispin
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 05:06 PM
  #2  
Rogue_Wulff's Avatar
Too old to act my age
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,164
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, Ok.
No choke will make it very cold natured.
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 05:20 PM
  #3  
Crispin38's Avatar
Thread Starter
o.O
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 871
Likes: 2
From: 64865
Yupp.. I know, just like I said. Didn't think it'd be this bad. When I ran my Weber (IDF) it honestly wasn't as bad in the winter.
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 06:17 PM
  #4  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Moderator
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,835
Likes: 3,232
From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
since you have it idling so high, it might not be idling on the idle circuit, it might be idling on the transition circuit, which isn't going to be right and isn't adjustable with the mixture screws.

i havent had a nikki colder than mid 40's but i used to pump it twice or three times, and once it started, i'd just use my foot to bring it up to 1500-2000rpms.

for about the first 30 seconds, it won't idle

after about 30 seconds the idle is low and rough, and it gets better as it warms up

no choke needed...

the P port/IDA is about the same, hot idle is about 1000, it could be lower but the CARB won't really let me
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 06:53 PM
  #5  
Jibaro 12A's Avatar
searching...
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 1
From: Chicago
I have a naked nikki on my 12A Judge Ito SP, on really cold days I just pump it once and it fires right up. I agree with J9FD3S, at 2K its on the transition circuit. My idle at the moment is between 750 -1000K.
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 07:04 PM
  #6  
Crispin38's Avatar
Thread Starter
o.O
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 871
Likes: 2
From: 64865
Yeah. J9FD3S, that's pretty much what I have to do. I think what I'm going to try next is pulling of my RB airbox and running the stock instead. That way it'll be less exposed to cold air. Idk, might make a difference.
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2011 | 08:40 PM
  #7  
orion84gsl's Avatar
My 7 is my girlfriend.
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,162
Likes: 1
From: London, Ontario, Canada
You can try hooking up your choke cable to the throttle and using it to hold the idle above the idle circuit until the engine is warm.
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 07:55 AM
  #8  
Crispin38's Avatar
Thread Starter
o.O
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 871
Likes: 2
From: 64865
Originally Posted by orion84gsl
You can try hooking up your choke cable to the throttle and using it to hold the idle above the idle circuit until the engine is warm.
I think i'm just going to leave it. I'm moving to Charlotte this summer anyways..
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:28 AM
  #9  
JoeNoble's Avatar
Almost not rotarded
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 961
Likes: 0
From: Troy, Missouri
Originally Posted by Jibaro 12A
I have a naked nikki on my 12A Judge Ito SP, on really cold days I just pump it once and it fires right up. I agree with J9FD3S, at 2K its on the transition circuit. My idle at the moment is between 750 -1000K.
That's not a bad idea maybe I'll stick my stock air cleaner back on. I have pretty much the same problem but mines a stock port and idles around 1200 rpm... 1000 with my headlights on lol
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:36 AM
  #10  
JoeNoble's Avatar
Almost not rotarded
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 961
Likes: 0
From: Troy, Missouri
Originally Posted by Crispin38
Yeah. J9FD3S, that's pretty much what I have to do. I think what I'm going to try next is pulling of my RB airbox and running the stock instead. That way it'll be less exposed to cold air. Idk, might make a difference.
That's not a bad idea maybe I'll stick my stock air cleaner back on. I have pretty much the same problem but mines a stock port and idles around 1200 rpm... 1000 with my headlights on lol
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:46 AM
  #11  
j9fd3s's Avatar
Moderator
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 31,835
Likes: 3,232
From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
why do you guys have such high idles? the P port idles lower!
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 09:56 AM
  #12  
rx71king's Avatar
the diabolical one
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 939
Likes: 1
From: queens n.y.
i was thinking the same..........6 or 700 rpm is good for your nikki...
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:18 AM
  #13  
JoeNoble's Avatar
Almost not rotarded
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 961
Likes: 0
From: Troy, Missouri
Mine is because of a few small vac leaks. I need to reseal the block off plates on the intake where the air pump, egr and coasting valve used to be.
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 10:21 AM
  #14  
JoeNoble's Avatar
Almost not rotarded
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 961
Likes: 0
From: Troy, Missouri
It's weird cuz I only get about 275 miles per tank (mostly hwy) but the exhaust fumes are making my bumper brown like it's getting too much air and not enough fuel (that's lean right?)
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 01:21 PM
  #15  
Jibaro 12A's Avatar
searching...
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 1
From: Chicago
Originally Posted by JoeNoble
That's not a bad idea maybe I'll stick my stock air cleaner back on. I have pretty much the same problem but mines a stock port and idles around 1200 rpm... 1000 with my headlights on lol
Im using a RB air filter on mine. Sounds like you might have a small vac leak somewhere.
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 01:50 PM
  #16  
Verneuil's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 543
Likes: 0
From: Glen Burnie, Maryland
Originally Posted by JoeNoble
It's weird cuz I only get about 275 miles per tank (mostly hwy) but the exhaust fumes are making my bumper brown like it's getting too much air and not enough fuel (that's lean right?)
Better than me. I got a stock port stripped nikki and full exhaust and i can barly get 200 miles per tank. Thats highway and some traffic

As for the cold start, If you can some how rig the old choke to the fast idle that can work. You pump it, Pull out the choke and when it starts it should got to 3000 RPM or so and stay there till she's warmed up. Thats atleast what i thought, But then i remembered you took out the choke rod. So there may be a lill modding to be had to make it work. My .02
Reply
Old Jan 28, 2011 | 04:59 PM
  #17  
JoeNoble's Avatar
Almost not rotarded
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 961
Likes: 0
From: Troy, Missouri
Yeah my fast idle is still intact
Reply
Old Jan 29, 2011 | 07:13 PM
  #18  
Crispin38's Avatar
Thread Starter
o.O
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 871
Likes: 2
From: 64865
Originally Posted by j9fd3s
why do you guys have such high idles? the P port idles lower!
The ports on mine are pretty healthy.. Sounds identical to my 13B PP race car. But whatever.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Einheri
Single Turbo RX-7's
14
Oct 7, 2015 12:23 PM
93FD510
New Member RX-7 Technical
2
Oct 1, 2015 02:00 PM
SSpyderX
1st Gen General Discussion
0
Sep 29, 2015 04:37 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:25 AM.