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Old 09-20-08, 06:21 PM
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Wink My new project.

Hey guy my name is Alex I am 16 and i just bought my fist car . I will post some pics down lower, ok so what I would like to do it strip every thing out of the car Engine every thing. Then I would like to paint in the firewall and the in the car. Then drop in a Mazda 13B-Turbo JDM Engine Rx7 RX-7 Rotary S4-13B-T. I have $6,000 to spend How hard is this task? Thank you for your time.




Old 09-20-08, 07:26 PM
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good luck, as for what can be done, possiblities are damn near endless, u can turbo that 12a or go with a 13bt it all depends what you want to do, how practical you want to keep it and where you want to spend the most time and money
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i'd stay N/A if its your first car....do bolt ons first and build up from there...i wish i wouldve did that insted of dumping tons of money into a TII swap for my FC....
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Well how would one go about turbocharging the stock engine is that something i have to bring in to the shop or can i do that from home? Thank you for the feed back. One more question The primary jets in the carberator do not work unless you manualy actuate them, but they do work. How do i fix this?
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the way you do that is by learning and researching first. Welcome to the dark side and the forum

Download a copy of the FSM from rx7.foxed.ca for your year (also available in my sig link once you have 10 posts)

I would also recomend search 12A turbo and TII swap and reading through entirely the longer threads and build threads so you have an idea of the level of involvement.

Personally i would stick with a NA motor for now and use a portion of that money to start upgrading suspension etc. But thats my opinion.

You are saying the primary jets in the carb dont work unless you actuate them? You mean the butterflies? Not being a carb expert but doesnt sound quite right. Also dl the carb manual from that link. very helpful and learn to use the search button, there is TONS of valuble information on this site about our cars. Just specify the 1st gen section.

Also read through the faqs about some recommended maitenance. And whats so special about a JDM engine, get a USDM one from here.... Maybe its just me but i never understood the jdm craze, and I am of that era.

Start simple, learn, and then upgrade.
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Originally Posted by 0001tmn
i'd stay N/A if its your first car....do bolt ons first and build up from there...i wish i wouldve did that insted of dumping tons of money into a TII swap for my FC....

i agree
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^^I second that. Also, from the looks of that FB, it could use a large amount of that $ for restoration. A well running FB with breather mods will be plenty quick for your first car, dont worry about boost just yet. If i were you i would replace/upgrade the suspension, engine components (hoses, cleanup, ect.), brakes, get some new wheels + rubber, full RB exhaust and a brand new, shiny paint job!!!! Then down the road upgrade the carb, fuel pump + FPR and tuning.....THEN turn attention to swap/boost. This way you are a 16 yr old with a quick, gorgeous, restored classic rather than some kid with a fast hunk of **** that will likely give you more probs than you can handle at that age.
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My first car was also an Rx-7 when I was 16, and I did exactly what these guys said. I couldn't have been happier. With $6,000 you could have new paint, suspension, Racing Beat exhaust, mild sound system, and a few good bolt on upgrades. You would be more than happy with it. The best advice here is to read through the FAQ section. There is good info there for Rx-7 beginers and veterans alike. There are more than enough mods there that you can easily do yourself until you gain the skills and confidence to tackle the bigger jobs like intalling turbos and what not. The members of this club are great too, and offer a lot of good advice. You can't find better help for the unique car you just purchased.
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Thank you for all the feedback it is nice to be here. I will go and research, I forgot to add I am trying to make this car both The USA D1 Grand prix legal and Street legal. Thank you for all your help.
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If I were you, with an already running car and $6000 extra, I would keep the car you have completely stock and perform basic tune ups on it and clean it up. Then I would go out and buy an RX-7 shell with a blown motor for a couple hundred bucks (make sure it has a clean title...) and do your 13bt swap on that. If your wanting to make it a track car that can be driven on the street you don't need an interior in it. If you don't have to pass emissions you can put a nice Racing Beat exhaust on it.

Me personally, I like to have a second car. I'm not saying these cars are not reliable because they are. I'm saying these cars are 20-30 years old and all 20+ year old cars have parts that break from time to time and may have hidden mechanical damage lingering. Even 5-10 year old cars break down.
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if you wanna drift it (D1 GP) gotta work on the suspension first!
get the suspension working properly and you can just turbo your 12a for that extra kick.
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If its your only car, I would stay away from either turbocharging it or doing a motor swap, because it will inevitably be out of commission for weeks, probably months. Do exhaust, ignition, and a good carb setup, and just get it running really well. See how you like it then. If its not enough, THEN give her some real power. Just my opinion. (Oh and upgrade suspension and brakes BEFORE engine/power, just works out better that way)
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Ok that sounds good suspension and brakes first. So what am i looking for when i go to like autozone and say I need suspension for my rx-7. what is the difference between the stock suspension and the new system. Thank you for your time
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Originally Posted by rajien2
Ok that sounds good suspension and brakes first. So what am i looking for when i go to like autozone and say I need suspension for my rx-7. what is the difference between the stock suspension and the new system. Thank you for your time
PLEASE god tell me you are kidding.


Firstly places like autozone carry stock replacement parts, and **** aftermarket stuff. Let alone anything decent for a 20 yr old vehicle

Check out www.re-speed.com for suspension needs. some other companies are mazdatrix and racing beat for other upgrades. The stock braking system with good pads and in overall good condition is more than adequate.


Before you start buying **** and wasting your money on crap, read through this site. look in the archives and shop around. This isnt a civic with plentiful parts, this is a vintage(almost) sports car.
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Sorry Thank you for your time.
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Mazda 13B-Turbo JDM Engine Rx7 RX-7 Rotary S4-13B-T.
By the way...what the hell does that mean? Am I the only one who is detecting something...'amiss' here?
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Originally Posted by Starfox07
By the way...what the hell does that mean? Am I the only one who is detecting something...'amiss' here?
...LOL, that looks like an Ebay title doesnt it?! Copy n paste?

Nahhh is just a youngin who doesnt know much about cars in general, let alone the Rotary or the lingo involved.....YET that is! Nothin like jumpin right in with the wolves. He will read, read and read some more and in no time he will be well versed/educated in rotary speak and look back and be like, "I didnt know ****" and "Did i write that?". Is how i was a few years ago when i bought my first rotary. Is crazy how much u can learn with all the info on this site and elswhere on the net within a short amount of time.
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...LOL, that looks like an Ebay title doesnt it?! Copy n paste?

Nahhh is just a youngin who doesnt know much about cars in general, let alone the Rotary or the lingo involved.....YET that is! Nothin like jumpin right in with the wolves. He will read, read and read some more and in no time he will be well versed/educated in rotary speak and look back and be like, "I didnt know ****" and "Did i write that?". Is how i was a few years ago when i bought my first rotary. Is crazy how much u can learn with all the info on this site and elswhere on the net within a short amount of time.
Lol I hope so, There is a lot more to a car then one might think. Ya it is just copy and past. I looked like a good engine when I was looking at it :P Thank you for your feed back.
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Before spending any real serious cash I would recommend looking at the archives about how to check for certain problem points like rust and structural integrity issues. This way you will know right away if it is even worth buying all the suspension parts or should you spend money having a welder work on it first. Many a person have been caught off guard by rust and they realized all the money they sunk into their car's performance was for naught since they had no money left to resolve the serious hiddin problems.
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Thanks for being kind to the new kid guys. You have actually provided him with some useful information.

Here is my advice to you, seeing as this is your first car.

1) The first step in learning about cars/engines is NOT to turbocharge one. I'll be honest and say that it would be too hard for you and you'd end up broke and frustrated, and we don't want that to happen to you. Stick with regular bolt ons for now, and learn as you go. There's plenty of fun to be had with exhaust, fuel, ignition, suspension, cooling, carb, and drivetrain upgrades. You've got to build up your knowledge base first before you try something extreme. If you are asking questions about the primaries in your carburetor then you DEFINITELY aren't ready yet.

2) The best way to have fun in these cars is not in a straight line. They just weren't designed with that in mind. These cars were made for the turns. Spend your money on suspension and regular maintenance. I'd recommend some suspension parts from ReSpeed and a Racing Beat exhaust. That should get you started, and provide you with plenty of fun.

3) If you really want to have fun with this car look into Autocrossing. You'll learn a lot about not just your car, but about driving. It's a much more affordable way for someone your age to enjoy beating on their car. Drifting is just going to continually flush your money down the toilet. Try sticking to something more organized and disciplined.

4) Read through the archives. You'll be glad you did.

Great to have you here! Good luck on the car and don't do anything stupid in it!

Jamie
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