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is my engine flooded?

Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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is my engine flooded?

my car was sitting about a month
the car start right up everytime a month ago
and today i tried to start it
it crank but it won't start
i can tell the engine is turning but it just don't start
anyone have a idea?
checked the fuel pump, spark plug already
will check the combusion and may do a ATF treatment once i got a helper
plz let me know if you had the same problem
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Are your sparkplugs wet with gas?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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just took the plug out and the rear housing's plugs are wet
and the front one are not
what is that suppose to mean
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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pull out the leading plugs on both housings unhook the slip off connectors on the two coils (driver side fender) and turn it over to expell out all of the gas clean up the spark plugs make sure there dry then put it all back to the way it was before ie.hook up coil and spark plugs. and turn the car over
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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just pulled out all 4 plugs and cleaned and still no luck
will try what you suggest jason
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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that doesn't work
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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are you getting spark?
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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you guys are right
i am not getting any spark
will need to check what will be the problem
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Ignitor, wires, coils...
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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You have no spark on leading OR trailing?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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I hate to sugest this, but you might just need to get a new starter, or it could be easy and you just need to get a new distributer. If its not flooded and you can still crank it over the battery is still good, if you're not getting any park, you might need a new starter solonoide. Hope that helps.

Have the starter tested and if that doesn't work, take a good look inside the distributer.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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neither the leading or trailing spark
i got very weak spark from the frnt housing leading
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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now i got all the spark back from swaping some working ignitor in
but still not enoght spark to get the car start
car doesn't have smoke at all(no combusion)
i already run the another ground to the housing
and have another car jump to booast the amp
but still no luck
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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anyone know aht's happend
how come i have weak spark
had checked all wires
distributor problem?
had swap the ignitor and coil from a running gsl-se
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Spark plug wires are old possibly. Change the plugs and wires first, then go from there.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sixtydgree
I hate to sugest this, but you might just need to get a new starter, or it could be easy and you just need to get a new distributer. If its not flooded and you can still crank it over the battery is still good, if you're not getting any park, you might need a new starter solonoide. Hope that helps.

Have the starter tested and if that doesn't work, take a good look inside the distributer.

How the hell does a starter have to do with spark if it's turning over the engine just fine?

Don't bother with the starter, just make sure the battery is charged up.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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battery is fully charger
i have swap the distributor cap, rotor, wires, spark plug, and igniators, coil
but still getting weak spark
car still doesn't start up at all
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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ANYBODY
PLZ HELP??
i had checked everything and how come i am still getting weak spark?
any input?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SF@Rx7
battery is fully charger
i have swap the distributor cap, rotor, wires, spark plug, and igniators, coil
but still getting weak spark
car still doesn't start up at all
Sounds like youve prety much redone the whole ignition, so as long as everything replaced was working, and installed correctly you should at least hear some sort of sputter, or the car should start if the timing is proper. My only thoughts are that you flooded the car prety bad trying to fix the problem and soaked the plugs. If you unflooded it properly and have dry plugs, youve got me.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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yes i did replaced the whole ignition system except the distributor is still there
i think the car housing is pretty much flooded withe gas while i was trying to start that
will try the ATF and see if i have any luck on that
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SF@Rx7
will try the ATF and see if i have any luck on that


Don't waist your time with the ATF BS. I've had 3 Rx7's flood on me and I've used the push starting method every single time to get them running again. It worked every single time. Check this old link and my link within it to read my explanation as to why it works.


https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ght=push+start
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:44 AM
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Or, use MMO rather than ATF. Just dump a little down the carb and crank her over. As far as weak spark goes, sound like a poor electrical connection (either positive or grounding at battery or starter).
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lovintha7
How the hell does a starter have to do with spark if it's turning over the engine just fine?

Don't bother with the starter, just make sure the battery is charged up.

First of all there are two parts to a starter. the part that turns over the enginge and the part (starter soloniode) that pushes the spark to the distributer. If the soloniode is out the engine will turn but there will be no spark.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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I've used the push starting method more than just a few times. embarassing, especially through the intersection in front of one of the most popular malls and towncenters of virginia, but it works!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sixtydgree
First of all there are two parts to a starter. the part that turns over the enginge and the part (starter soloniode) that pushes the spark to the distributer. If the soloniode is out the engine will turn but there will be no spark.
You are mistaken. The solenoid's only purpose is to engage the starter so that it turns the engine rather than just spin the starter. This has nothing to do with the ignition system.
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