And i'm sure as hell hoping that it just hasn't settled yet.

it MAYBE decreased my wheel gap by a maximum of 1 centimeter.....

However, the total spring height is probably about 3" shorter. OBVIOUSLY these springs are a fair bit stiffer than stock!! :-D

~Geoff

 

The springs you replaced were most likely sagged out, so you may not see any more drop.

 

what kind of springs did you get? Im considering re-doing my suspension with some Coil overs from Ground-Control, Price seems pretty good.

 

I've heard that ground control "coil-overs" are not propper coil overs. plus they only make them for the front.

They are an eibach pro kit, and there is a good 3" wheel gap in the rear with 205/40/16 rims. Granted, i havent driven it around yet (the engine is dead), so that may be part of the problem, they just havent sagged yet perhaps.

 

From all my experiences with lowering springs, It will take some time to go down to proper height, espically if your not driving it around.

 

Update: after sitting for 2 hours, it is now noticably lower, and is now lower in the rear than in the front (front still has stock springs).

 

What did the kit cost you?

 

i bought the eibach kit, a racing beat front sway bar w/ new bushings, and 3 (unknown to me) blown tokiko illuminas for $225 with 1,000 miles on them

 

need before and after pics.

 

from experance with 4 diferant manufacture's lowering springs. for the springs to reach full set in (sag point) it will be 2 - 4 weeks. racing beats took 3weeks lowered about 1/2 inch in rear and 3/4 inch in front, supension teqn took 2 weeks lowered the car the most same hight front and back about 1 1/4 inches. I personaly like the front end a bit lower than the rear. h&r took 4 weeks best look but ride was very stiff for street about 3/4 inch in rear and 1 1/8 in front I had a little more weight in the front with the h&R's so they would of most likly been 1 inch in front on stock car. the eibach's took just under 3 weeks lowered the back about 5/8 the front about 7/8 car apeared to sag alittle on drivers side front with them. they were not the pro kit ones though. the racing beat ones seamed the best for the street. the ground control racing kit is weld on and a true coil over the standard kit the sleve floats (sits ) on the curent strut spring seat.

 

I was thinking about getting the ground control coil overs soon, thanks for the information.

How much welding is involved with the ground control?

 

Talk to moremazda he has them, but like i said a buddy of mine (From the nopistons.com forum) was saying that the ground controls were not coil overs like you can buy for modern cars, that they are the cheap way of getting them.

I dont remember his argument for this, but he had a pretty valid one...

 

posibly because it comes as a kit and you do the work instead of an assy you just bolt in. pillage6 the race kit is the one to get. you first cut off your stock spring seat then weld on the threaded sleave. with the race kit you get a longer range of adjustment. IMO the street kit is no better than any other sport spring kit (non coil over) you might also look at the other brands coil over kits. ioTus find out what his argument for this was. I dont see a valid one. they are inexpensive I would not call them cheep though that refers to a inferior product. I would like to here this opion though. the gc kit is one of the ones I am thinking about doing.

 

That is interesting, since the Racing Beat springs are the cheapest. I was wondering about those...

 

Street Adjustable Height Front Spring Kit$ 97.50 each
Improved Touring and Street Prepared Adjustable Height Spring Kit$ 92.50 each

Okay, which one is recommended?

 

Not sure what the difference is exactly, but they recommended the first one to me. I also went with the weld on perches, they are a very good product. And they are real coil-overs! I can't imagine getting more real without doing some serious modifications to our front suspension. The springs are high quality eibach, and you determine your own brand of shock . I also would like to hear this guy justification for his opinion.

 

Cool, what spring rate did you go with for the rear?

 

Improved Touring and Street Prepared Adjustable Height Spring Kit$ 92.50 each

is the weld on that gives you more range of motion. there was a group buy for 185 including shipping look for the post. all hell with it here it is http://www.groupbuycenter.com/buy.aspx?id=9580

 

I think they both can come with weld on perches, unless that is the only difference, but I thought I got the other version, and mine are weld ons.

I haven't done the rear yet. I am working on the whole front suspension before I start that. Doing each complete system at a time. I plan on about 200lb. rears though. I am also going tri link and panhard bar at that time.

 

Well, I don't really race the car, but looking for a decent look with decent handling.

I would like to stay away from the welding, I want to do the labor myself.

 

That's cool, you can definitely get them to sit on the factor perches, it is the same thing except the adjustable bases have a notch take out of the bottom and it is cut to sit like a coil spring. You just won't be able to go quite as low. To be honest when I did mine I only tacked them in place then reassembled to see rid height. I moved my new perches up 1 inch above where they said to put the in the directions. I live one mile up a dirt road, in the mountains of western Maine, so I can't slam the car on the ground like people in flatter smoother areas.

You could use this as an excuse to buy a welder! I love reasons to buy new tools!

 

Well, the further away you keep me away from fire, the better off civilization will be.

The roads out here suck too, so no slamming of the car required.

I will call Ground Control this week to order.

 

Good Luck, their products are nice and there service is pretty fast, but the people that answer the phone could be a little nicer and informative. Someone there knows their stuff. It just isn't the phone guy, Both times I have ordered for them, every time I ask a question, I get, "can you hold on a second". And about a minute later he comes back with a pretty good answer.

 

Well, they have a pic of a first gen and some dood, so I would assume that is the guy to ask for.

 

Back to the original thread now (hehe):

After installing both the rears, its sitting really nicely. They still have yet to settle in, so i'm guessing they should be really sweet in a week or so!!

Now onto the fronts.....