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miata rear end fit an Rx7????

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Old May 16, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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Question miata rear end fit an Rx7????

i heard that a '94-'97 miata rear end fits with the first gen. RX-7, is this true???? mine is a '79, i would like to know if it dose or dosent. thanks.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 06:50 PM
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It is my understanding that the Miata Pumpkin will fit the 1st gen axle housing and the 84-85 axle shaft splines.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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'94-up only, but yes....
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Old May 16, 2002 | 07:13 PM
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94 and up miata will fit the '79??
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Old May 16, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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The '94-up Miata will work in an '84-85 rearend. It will physically bolt in to any 1st-gen rear but only the '84-85 have the correct axle splines. You cannot swap those axles into an earlier housing.

The only point to the swap would be so you can use the lower gears and/or Torsen diff found in SOME Miatas. Other than that, not much point.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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Is there something wrong with lower gears or torsen diffs?

I know there's one problem with torsen diffs:
They don't work if one wheel has absolutely NO traction. Thus solved by applying the brakes lightly.

The benefits are:
No special fluids required. Striaght gear oil
Never wears out unlike clutch pack diffs
Stronger than other types of diff

Any others? Any corrections as well.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Torsens aren't the strongest... they still use gears and gears can break. I'm sure SOMEONE out there makes a spool for the Mazda 7"....

Which is my point. The '94-up Miata differential is the same short-nose 7" that was used in the 1st-gen RX-7 as well as the RX-3 SP. There's no inherent advantage to using it unless you grab one with the torsen diff or with 4.30 or 4.444 gears. (Forgot about those...) Conveniently the Miata halfshafts' inner splines are the same as the '84-85 RX-7 axles' splines.

I kinda like the clutch LSD. It chirps around tight corners just like a spool
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Old May 16, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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Other than what thread and cable come on, or what my coffee table will be made of, What's a spool?
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Old May 16, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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spool - A one piece ring gear carrier that locks the rear axle shafts together and provides equal rotation of both wheels.

As taken from the Summit Racing online catolog.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Pele
Other than what thread and cable come on, or what my coffee table will be made of, What's a spool?
something i dropped in the toilet earlier.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by moremazda
spool - A one piece ring gear carrier that locks the rear axle shafts together and provides equal rotation of both wheels.

As taken from the Summit Racing online catolog.
Which consequently makes it very difficult to make a low speed turn or drive in the rain. Unless you have a V8 with lots of torque. Then it becomes very fun. (Much like the big block F body I had )

Harsh on rear tires on the street, thats why they are recommended for drag use only. The same effect without the strength is obtained by the fools that weld their spider gears.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:58 PM
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quote from How stuff works.com

", the Torsen is superior to the viscous coupling because it transfers torque to the stable wheels before the actual slipping occurs.

However, if one set of wheels loses traction completely, the Torsen differential will be unable to supply any torque to the other set of wheels."
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