1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:39 PM
  #1  
Eriks85Rx7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Wheel Revolutionist!
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 1
From: West Virginia
Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer.

Oh this stuff is EXCELLENT! BEfore my car would have a VERY hard time starting. It would blow smoke out.. now it puurss likea kitten i put one bottle of it in and the second it got started it was excellent. ALso i got my oil changed which helped but the lucas helped alot i would suggest putting it in your 7 if it smokes any.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:53 PM
  #2  
Paradox's Avatar
backyard tuner
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,265
Likes: 0
From: BC, Canada
ya that stuff rocks. they also have fuel stabilizer and power steering "stop leak" which works great aswell.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:29 PM
  #3  
vipernicus42's Avatar
Rotoholic Moderookie
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 5,972
Likes: 37
From: Ottawa, Soviet Canuckistan
I'm wary of any oil additive since my OMP is still functional... But yeah, I've heard good things in other cars.

Jon
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:43 PM
  #4  
Zyrano's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,025
Likes: 0
From: Campbell, CA
That's kinda my concern as well, how does this stuff burn? Anyone know?
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 12:21 AM
  #5  
Rogue_Wulff's Avatar
Too old to act my age
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,164
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, Ok.
How it burns is of secondary concern. I am more wondering how it flows thru those tiny OMP lines. This stuff is very thick...............
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 01:09 AM
  #6  
GavinJuice's Avatar
Leave A Message
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,454
Likes: 1
From: MN
how does this stuff "stabilize" the oil. from what it sounds it just thickens the oil, so i might as well just run a SAE40 and be done with it right? not really but you get the jist.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 01:13 AM
  #7  
Rotary Weasel's Avatar
Resident Weasel
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 566
Likes: 1
From: Reno, NV
I tried it, after reading the posts on here concerning startup smoke..
it's been a couple weeks now and my 7 still smokes a little at startup, no change from before..however I only substituted one quart..and it is very thick stuff indeed
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:32 AM
  #8  
OtakuRX's Avatar
The Rotorheaded Geek
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 920
Likes: 0
From: exit 8 in Manchester, NH
The stuff works wonders, I did try it in the engine but it is too thick for the OMP system, flushed it with some Gunk engine flush, but I still run it in my gearbox and rear end and it is wonderful.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 09:14 AM
  #9  
DAVID GRIMES's Avatar
How About A Cup Of STFU
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,552
Likes: 0
From: ALBANY, GA
Originally Posted by GavinJuice
how does this stuff "stabilize" the oil. from what it sounds it just thickens the oil, so i might as well just run a SAE40 and be done with it right? not really but you get the jist.
GYST
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 10:16 AM
  #10  
Eriks85Rx7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Wheel Revolutionist!
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 1
From: West Virginia
doesnt it mix in with your oil? it is running my rotors dry is it? if anything the car ran much better.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 10:49 AM
  #11  
twigg's Avatar
Its an addiction.
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 575
Likes: 0
From: Central Florida
nothing beats MMO. nothing.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:35 AM
  #12  
d0 Luck's Avatar
raysspl.com
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,508
Likes: 0
From: L.A.
i've been using it for over a year in my SE and it burns clean. start up is flawless and i've had a little better than usual compression ever since.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 01:36 PM
  #13  
Rogue_Wulff's Avatar
Too old to act my age
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 3,164
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, Ok.
Originally Posted by Eriks85Rx7
doesnt it mix in with your oil? it is running my rotors dry is it? if anything the car ran much better.
Yes, it mixes with the oil. I just have concerns about how the oil/lucas mixture will flow thru the OMP lines after a cold start. It's not easy to push thick liquid thru those very small lines, and the oil would be thicker at a cold start, even more so with this stuff in it.
I am not saying that it is bad, just that I have concerns about it.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 02:09 PM
  #14  
mikey D's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 848
Likes: 10
From: Pensacola FL
it works wonders in my 69 ford truck.

I like MM0 in my rx7 tho. it cleans things.



anyways i thelps your engine not smoke because its so thick and why i use it in my old ford truck. it burns the oil much slower when its running on thick oil.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 03:06 PM
  #15  
bERNIECMYK's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
From: Someplace, USA
mmo

is the way to go.

Use it in my 84 se - smoked when I bought it - now it starts up real clean.

works in the gas tank too.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 03:27 PM
  #16  
rx7owner's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
From: North Bay, Ontario
Originally Posted by Rogue_Wulff
Yes, it mixes with the oil. I just have concerns about how the oil/lucas mixture will flow thru the OMP lines after a cold start. It's not easy to push thick liquid thru those very small lines, and the oil would be thicker at a cold start, even more so with this stuff in it.
I am not saying that it is bad, just that I have concerns about it.


it flows through them fine and the stuff is awsome i would recomend it to anyone...think about it you have for bottles of normal oil and one of the lucas...its not going to make that much of a difference is it....i was also weary( i think thats how you spell it) so i only put half een though i called the lucas oil corp. and their technicians told me that it would be fine in any rotary...so if your still worried then just dont use it thats all
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 05:16 PM
  #17  
Kentetsu's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,359
Likes: 14
From: Grand Rapids Michigan
Most of you probably know that I have been using this stuff for a while now, as I've been pretty outspoken about it. I was looking at an immediate rebuild because my car was blowing so much smoke when decelerating (oil control rings). On the freeway, people would have to slow way down behind me if I let off on the gas, simply because they couldn't see. I was leaving smoke trails a mile long behind me! Anyway, I added the Lucas and the problem stopped that same day. Oil pressure might have gone up a bit, but not noticeable on the gauge. The best thing about the Lucas (in my opinion) is the way that it "crawls" into places that regular motor oil might not get to. I believe that it is keeping my oil control rings better lubricated so that they don't allow the "blowby" that I was seeing before. Anyway, all I know is that I was able to drive my car problem free for the entire summer rather than having to do an emergency rebuild.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:48 PM
  #18  
boyee's Avatar
keep it original!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,329
Likes: 8
From: SF Bay Area, California
i understand that this product is a good one. but of course this product does not cure the oil burning/leaking problem. it will only be a matter of time that whoever has these smoking problems will have to do an engine rebuild. am i correct or not?

i would rather do the rebuild right away and clean my engine before anything else. but thats just me.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 11:58 PM
  #19  
Paradox's Avatar
backyard tuner
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,265
Likes: 0
From: BC, Canada
if it works, why not? sure beats rebuild costs when oil seals tend to dry out on these engines so quickly.

i havent personally used it on a rotary engine, but if i could keep the rotors moving and still feeling strong without smoke... damn rights i'd be using it. people use this on high mileage piston engines all the times to stop the same signs of age and it usually solves the problems.
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 12:07 AM
  #20  
boyee's Avatar
keep it original!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,329
Likes: 8
From: SF Bay Area, California
theres two ways of looking at this situation: to use the product which will fix the problem every oil change or so, which is perfectly OK, or, to rebuild your engine and fix the problem directly which will last much longer and you wouldn't have to worry about it. i understand the latter costs more, but if anybody had the money and time who wouldn't want their fine cars fixed the correct way? these are just my opinions and i am not saying what is right from wrong. just wanted to show another point of view of this situation, since everyone seems to be going for this product (which, again, is perfectly OK).
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 12:14 AM
  #21  
Kentetsu's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,359
Likes: 14
From: Grand Rapids Michigan
Well, here's how I look at it. Other than the fact that I was smoking so badly, there was nothing wrong with my engine. Why tear down a perfectly good engine just to replace one problem seal when there is a good alternative? Even if my engine blows tomorrow, I still managed to get another 8,000 miles out of it before I had to rebuild. One other thing I failed to mention earlier; I used the Lucas for two oil changes then stopped adding it (just to check) and guess what? No issues at all! So, is this a bandaid to get you by for a bit or is it a cure for dried up oil seals? I can only base my judgement on my own experiences, so in my book this stuff rocks... And did I mention that my motor has nearly 200,000 miles on it and its never been taken apart?
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 12:42 AM
  #22  
boyee's Avatar
keep it original!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,329
Likes: 8
From: SF Bay Area, California
that's a very good point kentetsu, and i appreciate your input so that i can hear from experiences like yours so that i can understand the benifits of using this product. but also my situation might be different than yours so it might work differently for me than others. again i just wanted to voice another point of view and was not intending to say that i was actually going to do a rebuild right now (since my engine leaks and burns oil right now). if i had the money sure i would rebuild but since i dont i will try the lucas oil product and for sure will post how it goes in the future. it seems that i have been called out and outspoken in a good way because this benifits my knowlege on the product and results of the product. forgive me if anybody thought i was putting down this product. reading that many use this product and all have positive feedback for it, i have confidence that it is a great product which has led me to try it out on my car.

i hope my stock and never taken apart engine will have many more miles to come like yours kentetsu and still be pulling hard!!
Reply
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 09:44 PM
  #23  
Eriks85Rx7's Avatar
Thread Starter
Wheel Revolutionist!
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,018
Likes: 1
From: West Virginia
after a couple days this stuff works pretty good. On cold mornings the car tends to shake a little bit and blow white bluish smoke!! but after that it runs like a champ! I still reccomend this stuff!
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2005 | 05:46 PM
  #24  
moonless's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 286
Likes: 0
From: indiana
Has any one heard of motorkote hyper lubricant. It is been around for around 15 years mainly used in trucking. It's not a stabilizer and does not mix with the oil. It bonds direcly to the metal only uses what ever you put it in as a carrier host to get to the metal. Ie. mixes in gas, water, oil , grease, any thing really. I heard of it for the first time about 2 months ago and have tried it in 3 cars. All have shown a significant increase in fuel economy. My daily vechile a 86 n/a with auto tranny and all the basic bolt owns running 550 secondays and a turbo fuel pump is went from 23 mpg to 26.5 mpg and still getting better. I would highly suggest this to any one looking to get better mpg and a nice extra kick in performance.
Reply
Old Nov 12, 2005 | 08:10 PM
  #25  
boyee's Avatar
keep it original!!
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,329
Likes: 8
From: SF Bay Area, California
i believe not only do i have a dowel pin oil leak but also a omp (oil metering pump) leak as well. i have led to believe this omp leak because i can smell burning oil and see the smoking too but i dont see any leaks that could have rolled down the pass. side housing to drop to the exhaust manifold. since the omp is close to the exhaust manifold maybe the seals are broken on it and oil is leaking to the manifold.. also there is some dried oil on the heat shield. i might also have another oil leak near the air-to-air oil cooler.. maybe from a hose seal..

but anyways i just wanted to know if this lucas heavy duty oil stabilizer will help my omp problem also.. i just want it to stop smoking and if it fixes the puddle from the dowel pin leak.. even better.. just want no smoke and pass smog.. after a responce to this post ill go out to buy the lucas heavy duty oil stabilizer which i saw for sale at kragen for $9.99 a bottle
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:24 PM.