I have an 84 gs automatic, and its bone stock with 63,000 miles. Its happened again, in less than 2 months ive had to have it towed back to my house. The first time it was my alt, and thats been fixed. this time i dont know so i thought id ask the board before i spend bookoo money at a specialist shop. Any way, i was driving up to maryland to pick up tickets and on the way back, (all of this happened in less then 2 mins, max) im goin 60mph and all of a sudden my rpms slowly started droping (i start slowing to about 50), i clicked the overdrive off and mashed the gas to start speeding up ( cars are honking and im probly goin 40 now) and it jumps up one gear but only to 2500 rpms (still slowing down about 30) i jump three lanes and get on the shoulder, and as soon as i put it in park, she just shuts off. she will start and drive when my chokes out, or when i hold the brake and the gas, but it takes way way to long to get to 25. ive check the fuel filter, and pump, the spark plugs distributer, and the carb. by the way has anybody ever heard of a rock getting into the carb thru the intake and filter? cause i had one in the secondaries. but i pulled it out and tried starting it and still no good she just keeps starting and shuting off over and over. so if anybody out there knows anything at all that can help me out, please let me know, i really dont wanna have to take it to the specialist shop cause its the only one around and its really expensive around here.

 

I think the easiest place to start would be ignition. Verify that you have spark on the leading spark plugs.

If that looks okay, then we'll have to start looking at the carb most likely...

 

Check the fuel pressure: even a 10% drop can cause exactly these symptoms. Happened to me on my 85GSL. it was marginal for a while then did what you said. I don't remember the numbers, but it was something like 2.7 vs. 2.4 and a new pump from Rockauto.com fixed it.

 

Verify that you have spark to the trailing side or just attempt to start the engine and see if the tachometer is moving.

 

ok ill look at those after i get off work tommorow, thanks for the help

 

The easiest is of course checking to see if the tachometer moves when you are cranking the engine.

If it does not then the ignitor is bad. The same ignitor that completes the circuit for the fuel pump. Which means, no trailing ignitor, no fuel pump.

Also in the FAQ section there is a thread from Pele about the causes of no starting.

 

Now that I see that you have stated that it will start and run but only with the choke. Perhaps looking at the leading ignitor for fire and checking the fuel pressure and volume might be more appropriate.

 

ok well i finnaly got a day off to look at it, and now she wont even start, just a click when i turn it over. i think im just gonna have it towed to a shop about 20 miles away cause i dont have the time or knowledge to work on it myself.

 

It's going click because the battery is either defective, discharged or there is corrosion on the posts, and last but not least maybe loose connections.

 

Some auto parts stores will check and charge up your battery for free. Around here, Autozone does, but not sure if you have them where you are. Call around and you'll probably find one.

Please don't take your car to a mechanic... It always ends in tragedy.

 

well my volt gauge inside the car is saying its got a full charge, plus when my alt died about a month and a half ago, i bought new connectors and a new battery and a new alt. so i just dont see how the battery could die in less then a week of it being parked behind my house. but ill take to battery to autozone cause they do do it out here too.

 

ok well it was dead, how i dont know, but i bought a new one and tried, and it now starts to crank but still wont start. my father and i worked messed with it a little, again the spark plugs are good the wires are good, but when my dad moved the distributer around it sounded like it was really really tryin to crank over. still wouldnt, we checked the carb and im gettin plenty of fuel from the tank into the carb. (no clogged lines) and it seemed like it was easier to try to crank when i would put the choke in, but when it was out it wouldnt even try. but from what my dad thinks, (keep in mind that hes worked on old engines, but never a rotary) is that its the timing. so is there a way to check the timing without a timing light?

 

If it ran and you did not pull the dist then timing is not the problem.

Have you verified that you have fire to the leading plugs?

If the leading side is firing and you have verified that the fuel bowls are filing up. (by the clear sight glasses), and when you depress the throttle fuel is spraying in the primary side. Then I would have say that it is flooded.
Pull the plugs and see if they are wet.

Buy a can of starting fluid also. It is a lot more volatile than fuel. Sometimes that is what is needed to get it restarted.

 

You could try dumping a couple of ounces of Seafoam down the primary openings on the carb. That always works well for me when the motor is flooded. It will smoke a lot for a few minutes due to the Seafoam, but don't worry about that. It will also clean your plugs and internal engine parts really well at the same time...

 

yes i am gettin a spark from the lead plug, and i do see fuel spray in the carb when i press the gas, also i did buy some starting fluid from autozone the other day when my father and i were looking at it, and it didnt do anything. the plugs look good but tommorow when i get paid im goin to buy new plugs and try them anyway, cant hurt. and im gonna look for some seafoam. but i would really like to thank you guys for helping me out, if yall werent here then id be pretty s.o.l., so again thank you, and just one off topic question, i found an 83 limited edition, with 138,000 miles, and the guy has had it for 18 years and its all original, i mean hes bought the original part when ever something went bad, but he wants 6000 for it but he told me that since i have and 84 and ima a rx7 owner already that hed sell it for 3500. but basicly i wanted to know if the limited edition is the model or should it say gsl or gsl-se or anything like that on it cause he told me that its a limited and nothing else.

 

well i bought new plugs and put them in but she still isnt startin, and i feel like a retard for asking this but, doesa anyone know what order the wires go back in? i took them off all at once and now i dont remember which ones go where. if im not mistaken the number 1 wires go on the top right?

 

bumpin up this thread

 

T1 and L1 wires go on the right side of the dis cap closer to the alt if you are looking at if from the driver's side. The cap should have letters and numbers. Check compression yet?

 

Sounds like it's getting too much fuel to me. Try the deflooding procedure found in the FAQ section and give it another shot. If it doesn't work, try and carnk it while pinching the fuel line and see if it fires up. Too bad you aren't a little bit closer to me, I'd be happy to come over and help out, but an hour and a half is a bit much LOL

 

you know what i didnt even think about that, at first i thought the opposite, but ill try that, and well hell if i had a trailer id drive it up there to have you look at it. NOBODY around here will even look at it in their shops, cept for one thats $150 an hour base.

 

Ouch. I'd meet ya other side of Frederick if you had a way to get up here. You should check aorund in the NE section to see if anybody might have a trailer you could borrow.