Lets get This Straight: Stock vs. Stock
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Originally Posted by perfect_circle
oh so you have a friend with a 240 and hes talking smack, and your afraid to race, unless you know youll win....you wont.
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Don't mean to burst anyones bubble but the Porsche 924 came with the same engine as teh 944. The 924 is actualy quicker because it is like 78lbs lighter or something like that.
So compairing the 3 cars, with the porsche 944 & 924 with the same engine option, the Rx-7 will either beat it, or lose to it by a minority.
Fact is our cars were compident in their day. Now technolgy progressed, and our cars are old, and don't perform the way they used to.
If we did a full restoration on the car, so it was actualy puting down the spec hp the way it would if it was factory new, ect, teh car would be quicker then a stock focu, geom metrok/susuki swift, new swift, toyota echo, most early 1990's and early BMW's, most Datsuns, toyota corrola, ect.
However, in a corner, our cars are rather remarkable, espetialy running some nice rims and rubbers, we can do alot of g in a corner.
Stock is suposivly .86G, with new tire compounds, and good rims, I can see this rising much higher, perhapse even breaking into the low .9's
I also rember reading that the drag coefficent of the late gen 1 Rx-7 to be lower then those of the gen II. I rember reading that our cars had a crag coefficent of .30 the lowest of their days, but I could be wrong. ( I assume that this is with a spoiler)
So compairing the 3 cars, with the porsche 944 & 924 with the same engine option, the Rx-7 will either beat it, or lose to it by a minority.
Fact is our cars were compident in their day. Now technolgy progressed, and our cars are old, and don't perform the way they used to.
If we did a full restoration on the car, so it was actualy puting down the spec hp the way it would if it was factory new, ect, teh car would be quicker then a stock focu, geom metrok/susuki swift, new swift, toyota echo, most early 1990's and early BMW's, most Datsuns, toyota corrola, ect.
However, in a corner, our cars are rather remarkable, espetialy running some nice rims and rubbers, we can do alot of g in a corner.
Stock is suposivly .86G, with new tire compounds, and good rims, I can see this rising much higher, perhapse even breaking into the low .9's
I also rember reading that the drag coefficent of the late gen 1 Rx-7 to be lower then those of the gen II. I rember reading that our cars had a crag coefficent of .30 the lowest of their days, but I could be wrong. ( I assume that this is with a spoiler)
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Originally Posted by no_name
Don't mean to burst anyones bubble but the Porsche 924 came with the same engine as the 944. The 924 is actualy quicker because it is like 78lbs lighter or something like that.
So compairing the 3 cars, with the porsche 944 & 924 with the RX-7
So compairing the 3 cars, with the porsche 944 & 924 with the RX-7
The first 924 came out 1976 with the XK engine which produced 125hp, the US as usual got a low power version, the XG which produced 115hp.
The 924S with the M44/09 engine made 160hp, the /07 150hp in the US.
The 924T with the M31/03 produced 177hp, the US slower version produced 150hp, then 156hp in the later /02-04 engine.
The 924 GT 210hp with the M31/50, GTS had 245hp, while for performance was the GTR with 375 hp.
The first 944 came out in 1983 with the M44/02 engine which made 150hp, increasing to 158hp in the /09 engine.
The 944S had the M44/40 engine with 188hp, while the S2 with the /41 gave 208hp,
The 944T with the M44/51 gave 217hp , the sports version TS with the M44/52 made 250hp.
Also the 944 came out in 89 with the larger 3000cc M44/1 engine.
Your point is as valid as that of a piston enthusiast saying there is no difference between the 74 RX-4 and the RX-8 engine because they are two rotor with a capacity of 1308cc!
Your drag figures also differ from the design specs given by Mazda.
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My apologies for a typing error in the above post, the 3000cc engine was the M44/41 not M44/1.
The 924 had the X and V series 2.0 litre engines. The 944 had the M44 series regardless whether they were 2.5, 2.7 or 3.0 litre engines.
The 924 had the X and V series 2.0 litre engines. The 944 had the M44 series regardless whether they were 2.5, 2.7 or 3.0 litre engines.
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Originally Posted by Lt. Dan
I wonder what was wrong with the Mustang....... LOL
Most auto mustangs came with rocket gears. I think a 2.73
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