Latter bars or a 4 link?
02-25-03, 07:33 PM
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Latter bars or a 4 link?
Im gonna do my rear end mod after I do my body kit. The guy that I know that does race car chassis' asked me , if I wanted to go latter bars or a 4 link. He said a 4 link would require cuttin all the floor board out. But I thought latter bars were for leaf springs ? I didnt want to sound stupid but so I said Id think about it. Also talking about doing a 6 point cage all in chromoloy. Let me know you opinions...
02-25-03, 08:42 PM
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Mike it depends on how your going to drive it. on the street. or at the strip. ladder bars are cheaper, but for going straight. A 4 link for street. I say tub the rear some and cut the rearend for some large wheels/tires tucked up under the rear. and install the 4 link to the roll cage. 6 point would be perfect. get your body kit yet ??
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02-25-03, 09:08 PM
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Miek they are about the same. But a 4 link is more ajustable. With the lader bars you are stuck with a set instant center. With the ladder bars you can pretty much set the instant center to where veer you need it. Also with ladder bars as the suspension moves in the back the pinion angle will change more than it will with a 4-link setup.
It will also take about the same amount of cutting to do either setup. A four link will reqiure a sturdy crossmemeber from about 28-34" infront of the rearend depending on the ladder bars you use.
You will need the same with with the 4 link setup, but the front mounting points are a little larger.
Ladder bars are pretty easy to get setup. And you can see many a car at the track running really really fast with a simple ladder bar setup.
4-links can be a PIA utill you get them "tuned" and you know how it can be a real pain to get something "tuned"
Just remember AJC13b is running a stock rear suspension setup and gets some plumb nasty 60' and it still rides nice with a quiet rear suspension. Both ladder bars and 4-links will be pretty noisy and bind up pretty hard when the suspension tries to roll. Ride would be pretty crappy with low profile tires.
Just my .02
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Randy
It will also take about the same amount of cutting to do either setup. A four link will reqiure a sturdy crossmemeber from about 28-34" infront of the rearend depending on the ladder bars you use.
You will need the same with with the 4 link setup, but the front mounting points are a little larger.
Ladder bars are pretty easy to get setup. And you can see many a car at the track running really really fast with a simple ladder bar setup.
4-links can be a PIA utill you get them "tuned" and you know how it can be a real pain to get something "tuned"
Just remember AJC13b is running a stock rear suspension setup and gets some plumb nasty 60' and it still rides nice with a quiet rear suspension. Both ladder bars and 4-links will be pretty noisy and bind up pretty hard when the suspension tries to roll. Ride would be pretty crappy with low profile tires.
Just my .02
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Randy
02-26-03, 08:17 PM
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02-28-03, 04:38 AM
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Originally posted by Eville140
Miek they are about the same. But a 4 link is more ajustable. With the lader bars you are stuck with a set instant center. With the ladder bars you can pretty much set the instant center to where veer you need it. Also with ladder bars as the suspension moves in the back the pinion angle will change more than it will with a 4-link setup.
It will also take about the same amount of cutting to do either setup. A four link will reqiure a sturdy crossmemeber from about 28-34" infront of the rearend depending on the ladder bars you use.
You will need the same with with the 4 link setup, but the front mounting points are a little larger.
Ladder bars are pretty easy to get setup. And you can see many a car at the track running really really fast with a simple ladder bar setup.
4-links can be a PIA utill you get them "tuned" and you know how it can be a real pain to get something "tuned"
Just remember AJC13b is running a stock rear suspension setup and gets some plumb nasty 60' and it still rides nice with a quiet rear suspension. Both ladder bars and 4-links will be pretty noisy and bind up pretty hard when the suspension tries to roll. Ride would be pretty crappy with low profile tires.
Just my .02
Later
Randy
Miek they are about the same. But a 4 link is more ajustable. With the lader bars you are stuck with a set instant center. With the ladder bars you can pretty much set the instant center to where veer you need it. Also with ladder bars as the suspension moves in the back the pinion angle will change more than it will with a 4-link setup.
It will also take about the same amount of cutting to do either setup. A four link will reqiure a sturdy crossmemeber from about 28-34" infront of the rearend depending on the ladder bars you use.
You will need the same with with the 4 link setup, but the front mounting points are a little larger.
Ladder bars are pretty easy to get setup. And you can see many a car at the track running really really fast with a simple ladder bar setup.
4-links can be a PIA utill you get them "tuned" and you know how it can be a real pain to get something "tuned"
Just remember AJC13b is running a stock rear suspension setup and gets some plumb nasty 60' and it still rides nice with a quiet rear suspension. Both ladder bars and 4-links will be pretty noisy and bind up pretty hard when the suspension tries to roll. Ride would be pretty crappy with low profile tires.
Just my .02
Later
Randy
02-28-03, 05:04 AM
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How much HP/TQ do you anticipate putting to the pavement? I would be inclined to stick with the stock rear end (maybe do a panhard bar) and see how that lasts, especially if you're planning on this being a street terror not a dragstrip queen. If the rear doesn't hold up you haven't lost anything. I think the two set ups you inquired about are kinda noisey and rough for street use. I would definately go with a cage, though. You can always tie a 4-link or ladder bar set up into it later.
