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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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SO you are saying the black sealer is a good thing then, so i get a uniform color!
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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mkae it a mist like coat...almost like a guide coat then go at with regualr 50 percent over lap. Your saving alot of money buy using that black sealer. U don't need as much paint to build up ur color.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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Sounds good then i will mist the first coat wait 15 minutes then go at it like a normal first coat. So for this mist like coat should i hold the gun farther away than the normal 8 inches?
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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yeah u can do that or reduce the pressure or widen the spray pattern. 8 inches?i think more like 10-12 but what u like is good. I like to play with the gun sometimes. What pressure are u using at the regulator?
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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Makes me want to get out and start stripping off my shitty paint, and actually do it right.
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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How long can i leave epoxy primer on the car for before i have to put top coat on it! does it not turn into glass like finish after awhile!
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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it looks glassy don't worry its normal. You can still sand it. Block with 320 then 600. Its gonna sand real well once u grt past the sticky surface.
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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yeah it says non sandable though!
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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??? idk why it would say that...... just go at it with 320
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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cause it clumps up real bad when you sand it. Its just to hot today to do anything humidity is 70%
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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thats wierd u reduced to a sealer right?mshouldn't clump up. Maybe go with something rougher then. 220 or something. Yeah its gonna hot 100 here where i live.....
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 03:53 PM
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yeah i mixed it 2:1:.5 like it says let is sit for 15 minutes to catalyze and sprayed that **** on oh well. i can always just prime over top of it lol made a nice smooth finish anyway! But it rained last night and left watermarks all over the epoxy!
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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yeah we use that on our cars if we're gonna let them sit over for a long *** times. I like that look lol. I know it clumps up and make a mess but i never had a hard time sanding it. Of course i use 80 or 120 to block it for lows and highs then u i use a regualr sealer. Thats an odd mixing ratio i guess becuase it can be used for many things.
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Old Jun 20, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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I have decided to stop dead in my tracks. I have thought about it and it might be a good idea to lay a primer on the rest of the car and then shoot epoxy sealer over the top to create a super smooth finish! Then prime over the top of that! I do not want this car to rust anymore and this is probably a extra step and very time consuming but well worth it in the end!
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 01:14 AM
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good plan! nothing wrong with a primered body.
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Old Jun 21, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Starting to sound a little messy?
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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how the hell do you get these mirrors off?
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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remove door panel and there should be two nuts holding them in on the very top inside the door beams. Very hard to get into becuase its a a tight spot. I think 10 or 12 mm bolts. Wear gloves orsomething becuase u will get cut up.
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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there not like the sa ones where they un screw from the mirror than there is screws in the pedestal! Also i found out that epoxy does sand i brushed into a patch with some 150 and it does come off. leaves god awfull marks though probally cause of the 150 lol. but it does sand. Just take a long time to cure i guess!
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 06:16 PM
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oh ok my bad lol. Told u it sand wonder why it took so long to cure.
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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if u want it to be vibrant as possible than lay 3 coats of base then block it with like 1400 grit then lay abother 2-3 coats then 4 coats of clear then wet sand that and another 3 coats of clear. alot of work and money but damn it will come out like glass and pop like crazy.

wow....i have never painted that much on any vehicle.....thats way to many mils of refinish material to last very long on a vehicle....unless it stays in subtle conditions of temperature without alot of constant changing, i would fear it cracking.....guess its up to how crazy you want to get
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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no i was asking are the like the sa ones or are they mounted inside the door. If not i guess i will tape them off or paint them the same color does not matter either way!
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 06:50 PM
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yeah its tricky and too much many coats will crack after the typical dd conditions but the trick is to sand it to the very first coat or 2nd coat. Its mostly used on show cars or garage queens. I tested it out on one side of my car and it came out beautifully glassy and never cracked or shipped except one places becuase someone hit me with their door.
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Well its almost done i will shoot it with the epoxy primer/sealer this week and rock the flat black for a week or so. Then i will either scuff it or shoot a thin layer of primer over the top and its paint time! This paint job does not have to last more than like 2 years i will find another car buy then!
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Old Jun 22, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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Don't forget to get a good mask (at least charcoal, positive air breathing is better) and the body suit (20$) to collect your body dust and hair and keep it out of the paint. I also used a $15 face shield in addition that really helped me as that polyurethane is nasty stuff and really bothered my eyes without it.

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