intake and carb spacers, availability and types (researched)
01-19-07, 09:16 PM
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intake and carb spacers, availability and types (researched)
Someone mentioned to be that they had a Derlin spacer for thier intake. He claimed that it improved torque quiet alot. He noticed that less throddle was needed throughout the driving period especially on straight aways.
Wether or not this is true, the idea kinda interests me. To be able to extend the intake but not slow down the rate that the gasses enter the combustion chamber is a great idea, it allows better fuel anodization (sp?) Or in other words it allows the fuel to become a better vapor/ air fuel mixture before entering the engine, correct? Would be excellent for a turbo app.
A few products are available for this. Derlin, Aluminum, Mild Steel and Ceramic 400.
Each with benefits and each with their downsides.
Derlin: Homopolymer sheets, rods & tubes have many of the same characteristics of industrial metals such as brass, aluminum, zinc, and stainless steel. Some comparable properties include stiffness, dimensional stability, impact resistance, and structural strength. Prolly the best material out there.
The cost of Derlin is quite high, a direct estimate from the largest Derlin supplier in the country world (Professional Plastics) shows that a sheet is nearly $800. The sheet measuring 24" by 48" by 1" thick. One intake manifold would cost nearly $60 before machining. I dont know if this is the same stuff that my source used since i have havent gotten an actual price cost of how much it cost him to get it made yet.
Aluminum: Everyone knows the properties of aluminum. The cost for a 10" x 6" x 1" would be prolly huge. Not even worth it, after all, the aluminum transfers too much heat. Were trying to keep the mixture cool.
Ceramic 400: Another product distributed by Professional Plastics is a very easily machinable ceramic sheet. I couldnt even get a quote on this one today. Hard to say about this one, although interesting.
Mild steel: Cheap, affordable, machinable, and disipates heat worse than any other.
Now the main question. As a welder i will prolly be able to have access to machine lathes and other tools needed to make one of these spacers, would it be worth my time to make one? Express your thoughts and comments.
Btw, i have this quality to me where i post usless threads, go ahead and tell me haha.
Wether or not this is true, the idea kinda interests me. To be able to extend the intake but not slow down the rate that the gasses enter the combustion chamber is a great idea, it allows better fuel anodization (sp?) Or in other words it allows the fuel to become a better vapor/ air fuel mixture before entering the engine, correct? Would be excellent for a turbo app.
A few products are available for this. Derlin, Aluminum, Mild Steel and Ceramic 400.
Each with benefits and each with their downsides.
Derlin: Homopolymer sheets, rods & tubes have many of the same characteristics of industrial metals such as brass, aluminum, zinc, and stainless steel. Some comparable properties include stiffness, dimensional stability, impact resistance, and structural strength. Prolly the best material out there.
The cost of Derlin is quite high, a direct estimate from the largest Derlin supplier in the country world (Professional Plastics) shows that a sheet is nearly $800. The sheet measuring 24" by 48" by 1" thick. One intake manifold would cost nearly $60 before machining. I dont know if this is the same stuff that my source used since i have havent gotten an actual price cost of how much it cost him to get it made yet.
Aluminum: Everyone knows the properties of aluminum. The cost for a 10" x 6" x 1" would be prolly huge. Not even worth it, after all, the aluminum transfers too much heat. Were trying to keep the mixture cool.
Ceramic 400: Another product distributed by Professional Plastics is a very easily machinable ceramic sheet. I couldnt even get a quote on this one today. Hard to say about this one, although interesting.
Mild steel: Cheap, affordable, machinable, and disipates heat worse than any other.
Now the main question. As a welder i will prolly be able to have access to machine lathes and other tools needed to make one of these spacers, would it be worth my time to make one? Express your thoughts and comments.
Btw, i have this quality to me where i post usless threads, go ahead and tell me haha.
01-19-07, 09:30 PM
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hey chedda, the delrin did cost about sixty bucks. got it from a shop in gardena, ca. i believe called "the plastics shop" and they cut it down to the size i needed (square) for free. machining did cost some dough but it was worth it. gotta pay to play.
velocity is the key. best of luck.
velocity is the key. best of luck.
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