I need help on if this is a good pick or not!
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I need help on if this is a good pick or not!
Ok so what we go is a 82' with a larger street port. It has 130,000 rebuilt at 100,000 miles.
Now here is the thing it is "eating" oil, about quart to quart an half of oil a week. (I have seen worse) Now from the rebuild on they have been using synthetic oil... is this as bad as it used to be? RacingBeat's site said we can use Royal Purple(I don't know what kind he is using). But old rotard superstition is nothing but real oil and unleaded fuel.
Am I out dated or is synthetic ok now? And if its not, can we flush it out?
Now here is the thing it is "eating" oil, about quart to quart an half of oil a week. (I have seen worse) Now from the rebuild on they have been using synthetic oil... is this as bad as it used to be? RacingBeat's site said we can use Royal Purple(I don't know what kind he is using). But old rotard superstition is nothing but real oil and unleaded fuel.
Am I out dated or is synthetic ok now? And if its not, can we flush it out?
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Before I knew any better I used full synthetic oil (I know, stupid of me not to read the FAQ section) and it did burn through quite a bit of oil. But not that much. Now running straight conventional, and using as much as she's supposed to. The synthetic didn't ruin anything by the way, but I'm not an expert of any kind and I'm not going to use it again.
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Now it is ported so would that much oil going in really be that bad(extra more good)? Also if it has been running with synthetic for the last 30,000 miles would it be wise to change it with it being broken in with it? With Racing Beat going against rotard superstition its got me all
I guess it would also be good to ask what is "normal" oil burning for a 12a with a street port?
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Before I knew any better I used full synthetic oil (I know, stupid of me not to read the FAQ section) and it did burn through quite a bit of oil. But not that much. Now running straight conventional, and using as much as she's supposed to. The synthetic didn't ruin anything by the way, but I'm not an expert of any kind and I'm not going to use it again.
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Well I picked up the car for $500, I almost felt bad. Right when he got there the clutch was just gone and I couldn't even get in gear for a full trip up and down the street. I told him nice parts car, here's $500 lol and started working.
Slave clutch was bad and so was the clutch MC. Had a slave laying around so I tossed it on, and keep the same clutch MC still wont hold 100% pressure, but it made it much better and derivable. I also did a oil change to dino, and she still smoke's a lot... so I think I am down to trying premixing to see if that will clear things up.
And I am sorry I took the 3 min's to search and got the right premix DIY
If that dose not work... ideas? Call it doomed, and toss in the 13?
Compression numbers are 97lbs F and 100lbs R... so comp is ok.
Slave clutch was bad and so was the clutch MC. Had a slave laying around so I tossed it on, and keep the same clutch MC still wont hold 100% pressure, but it made it much better and derivable. I also did a oil change to dino, and she still smoke's a lot... so I think I am down to trying premixing to see if that will clear things up.
And I am sorry I took the 3 min's to search and got the right premix DIY
If that dose not work... ideas? Call it doomed, and toss in the 13?
Compression numbers are 97lbs F and 100lbs R... so comp is ok.
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The smoking may not be caused by too much oil being injected. There are oil control seals on the rotors, similar to a piston engine, but with a rubber o-ring or sorts. I had a problem of excessive oil consumption on my 79 that I think was being caused by the o-rings drying out a bit from sitting for so long before I bought it. I would suggest draining about 1L of oil out of the engine then putting 1L of Lucas Oil Stabilizer in it. It won't work right away, but after driving for about 300 miles or so, you should start to see the oil consumption improve, if those o-rings were the problem.
If it still doesn't improve after premixing and adding Lucas to the oil, then you may have a more serious problem.
If it still doesn't improve after premixing and adding Lucas to the oil, then you may have a more serious problem.
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The smoking may not be caused by too much oil being injected. There are oil control seals on the rotors, similar to a piston engine, but with a rubber o-ring or sorts. I had a problem of excessive oil consumption on my 79 that I think was being caused by the o-rings drying out a bit from sitting for so long before I bought it. I would suggest draining about 1L of oil out of the engine then putting 1L of Lucas Oil Stabilizer in it. It won't work right away, but after driving for about 300 miles or so, you should start to see the oil consumption improve, if those o-rings were the problem.
If it still doesn't improve after premixing and adding Lucas to the oil, then you may have a more serious problem.
If it still doesn't improve after premixing and adding Lucas to the oil, then you may have a more serious problem.
Just barley putting my foot on the throttle in second and its a smoke screen, keep the RPM's around 4k you can still see it in the vortex behind the car but its not blinding hiding the next car... I don't think I could do 300 miles for the stabilizer. Maybe the motor is just to far gone for premix... but hey still got to try. Right
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Just talked to the guy about some spare bits he had for the car (bra, car cover)... I remembered I had not ask him if he ever over heated it. He said "no never once, never had it even gotten near it". As we all know it happens, we hate to admit it but it dose happen. To say it "never has happend" is a lie (I know how this guy drives) every story from my buddy about him, he railed this car hard. Today when I was driving the temp gauge did not get off peg till I had driven 4 miles (I let it warm up till for 10min's) and it never got past 1/4.
So there's that too.
So there's that too.
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Does it smoke on startup?
If they had the side plates resurfaced, they're dead now, as are your oil seals. Time for a rebuild. Get some unmolested side plates and some good used or new oil seals. Might as well get some new o-rings and competition outer oil springs. You oil consumption will drop to near zero! Other than what the OMP/MOP uses, of course.
If they had the side plates resurfaced, they're dead now, as are your oil seals. Time for a rebuild. Get some unmolested side plates and some good used or new oil seals. Might as well get some new o-rings and competition outer oil springs. You oil consumption will drop to near zero! Other than what the OMP/MOP uses, of course.
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Does it smoke on startup?
If they had the side plates resurfaced, they're dead now, as are your oil seals. Time for a rebuild. Get some unmolested side plates and some good used or new oil seals. Might as well get some new o-rings and competition outer oil springs. You oil consumption will drop to near zero! Other than what the OMP/MOP uses, of course.
If they had the side plates resurfaced, they're dead now, as are your oil seals. Time for a rebuild. Get some unmolested side plates and some good used or new oil seals. Might as well get some new o-rings and competition outer oil springs. You oil consumption will drop to near zero! Other than what the OMP/MOP uses, of course.
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Premix run one done. Only time she smokes is 4000rpm and up when pushed. Second gear is still the worst. Could there be a lot of oil in the exhaust that needs to be burnt off? It seems that it really only smokes when you get after it, and it pushed a lot of heat.
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Ok put in the block off plate, and she is still running good. Now its still smoking alot 4000 rpm and higher. Is this oil burning off in the exhaust, or could it be worse? I have only put on 50 miles with the premixing, so the exhaust could still have a lot of oil in it... How long could it take to burn it up?
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