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Old May 10, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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It is hot in Texas

So, it is hot as hell here in Texas. Thus, the RX-7 is hot as hell inside of it.

My A/C is definatly lacking in the "Full of Freon" area. I converted over to 134a on my honda, and I would really not like to go through all that mess again. It is seriously a pain in the *** with the changing of all the dang gaskets and valves and bleh.

So, does this product Freeze 12 work? I hear it can work alongside the freon that is in my system. I would like to be able to do this in an afternoon or less if possible, without paying 2 billion for r-12. Anybody have some tips?
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Old May 10, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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This is somewhat off-topic, and I know some people absolutely hate them, but rear window louvers definitely make a big difference in interior temperature. I've had them on my '79 for over 25 years and notice a huge difference between that and my '85 project car that does not have louvers. They won't replace a good air conditioner, but could help.

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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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But those are so ugly on a white car. I don't want my baby to look like a confused mustang.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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paint them white
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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nice ocean breeze in socal.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 64mgb
This is somewhat off-topic, and I know some people absolutely hate them, but rear window louvers definitely make a big difference in interior temperature.
very true. There was a dramatic difference in cabin temp. However I took them off because it rattled, and was starting to chip paint off the back of the car. get the ABS plastic ones.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by j_tso
very true. There was a dramatic difference in cabin temp. However I took them off because it rattled, and was starting to chip paint off the back of the car. get the ABS plastic ones.
Mine are aluminum and I have never had any rattling problems, and no paint issues. Mine are a Mazda item though, so may be a better fit.

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Old May 10, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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that must be it. mine isn't as flush with the hatch glass as yours.


it gets a little a wider at the bottom corners, and touches the car around there.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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I just open the vents, windows, remove the roof and enjoy, seriously I feel like a King in my 7 on a hot day.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Whoa now? what type of coverson kit did you get.

I went to the local autozone and got a conversion kit in a box. Came with everytyhing I needed, the retrofit lube, and 3 cans of r134a, all I did was unbolt my hoses, let the freon out(noy EPA legal) and screw on a cap and filled her back up.

Simple 5 minute job.

cost me 30 bucks and I got cold AC.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dantheman
So, it is hot as hell here in Texas. Thus, the RX-7 is hot as hell inside of it.

My A/C is definatly lacking in the "Full of Freon" area. I converted over to 134a on my honda, and I would really not like to go through all that mess again. It is seriously a pain in the *** with the changing of all the dang gaskets and valves and bleh.

So, does this product Freeze 12 work? I hear it can work alongside the freon that is in my system. I would like to be able to do this in an afternoon or less if possible, without paying 2 billion for r-12. Anybody have some tips?
Stop bragging. I wish I could use my A/C here. Instead, I had to turn the heat on. It's in the upper 40's and raining for 8 out of the next 9 days.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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^^^

Well I guess thats on way to look on the bright side
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Old May 10, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by $100T2
Stop bragging. I wish I could use my A/C here. Instead, I had to turn the heat on. It's in the upper 40's and raining for 8 out of the next 9 days.

Ha! I pray for a good rainstorm to come through and get us out of this damn drought. We should see temps in the 100s in the next few weeks. Be glad you have cool weather up there. We get summer and kinda cool for our seasons.



I did one of those kits in a box type of thing. It doesn't cool near as good in the heat of Texas though. I put on a new compressor, had to replace half the o-rings, vac out the system, fill with the correct oil, and then check for leaks. (I found 2) I wish I could just put in a substance that worked like r12 and was cheap. If I have to, I will convert it, but I would rather not.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 11:29 PM
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i took my ac off, i havnt driven around during summer without it yet.....
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Old May 10, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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**** im dieing in this usa heat its only 70ish i cant stand it gettin light headed and all
i drive with the sunroof off thats my air conditioning
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Old May 10, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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i have no sun roof.... i rol the windows down and put the air on blast and turn it to blue....haha

im going to regret taking the ac out
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Old May 11, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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Well at least your car came with and ac although it really doesnt get past seventy in a heat wave around here.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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I just got to thinking "Man, 30 bucks isn't bad. Maybe I'll do that." then realized that my A/C was taken out by the previous owner. Oh well. The heat here gets decently bad, but I've not had A/C in my cars ever, soooo no biggy. I'll just sport the sweat stains on my back when I hop out of my ride after a long day of cruising the streets on a hot day.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 01:15 AM
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I converted my ac to r134!! ITS COLD!!! AND I AIN'T TURNING IT OFF!!!!
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Old May 11, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dantheman
We get summer and kinda cool for our seasons.
Yeah, and we get 9 months of winter and 3 months of bad skiing.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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...if you look hard enough, you can sometimes still find cans of r12...

...I would tend to shy away from things that say they are designed to work alongside r12, in general, these are hydrocarbon based freon replacements (HC-12a / OZ-12 / Duracool 12a) , and they really aren't safe (pumping butane through a system that was designed to pump a nice, non-flammable refrigerant) I know of several cases where cars running hydrocarbon based refrigerants have gone up rather spectacularly in flames due to the refrigerant catching fire...(including a picture I can't seem to find, of a Porsche 928/944 in flames after a dyno run... this it was a PCA dyno event or something)
Regardless, these replacements are definately not something you want near a VERY hot rotary engine...

http://www.shadetreemechanic.com/cc_...frigerants.htm
http://www.epa.gov/Ozone/snap/refrigerants/hc-12a.html
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Old May 11, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by KcKhan

im going to regret taking the ac out
When you take your AC out, send it to me. I need it. Previous owner took it out, and I want my damn AC.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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I know a few guys around here who are running propane as their refrigerant of choice. Seems to work great. The flashpoint is high enough where if you manage to light off the propane, you have much bigger problems to worry about at that time.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Ive heard that.

I know my buddys GF's family uses propane to air up thier tires and such. I guess maybe because they own the propane business, but I dont know. lol
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Old May 11, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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*sarcasm on* I know, lets use flammable gases for everything... *sarcasm off*


...seriously, lets think about this just a little bit...
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