1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Holley Throttle Bracket - 13b 6port

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:07 AM
  #1  
lowpsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: DFW, TX
Holley Throttle Bracket - 13b 6port

Im swapping a s4 13b and bought a Holley carb, intake, etc with the motor. Was previously installed in a REPU.

The carb throttle bracket is on the radiator side not the firewall side like a RB prepped Holley. Before I make a mounting bracket for the throttle cable, is there one available somewhere?

Using this manifold: http://www.jegs.com/i/J+W+Performanc...FQcKaQodHQcIBg
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2016 | 10:10 PM
  #2  
rxtasy3's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 9,579
Likes: 290
From: Spartanburg, SC
this is how the cable bracket attaches. being as this is going into a 1st gen, u wont need the extension section due to the cable not being as long as it is on the fc.

Throttle Cable Bracket, 6-Port with Holley Kit for RX7 1986-1992 - Racing Beat
Reply
Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:12 PM
  #3  
lowpsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: DFW, TX
Originally Posted by rxtasy3
this is how the cable bracket attaches. being as this is going into a 1st gen, u wont need the extension section due to the cable not being as long as it is on the fc.

Throttle Cable Bracket, 6-Port with Holley Kit for RX7 1986-1992 - Racing Beat
Yes unfortunately that will not work since the throttle bracket is on the opposite side of the RB Holley.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 10:25 AM
  #4  
KansasCityREPU's Avatar
Out In the Barn
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,704
Likes: 1,250
From: KC
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 11:28 AM
  #5  
lowpsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: DFW, TX
I can't tell if you guys aren't reading or just trying to troll.

The RB bracket will not work for my setup.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 12:52 PM
  #6  
Jeff20B's Avatar
Lapping = Fapping
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 15,725
Likes: 91
From: Near Seattle
Look at their post counts. They are trying to help but have no experience with a JW manifold.

Your best bet is to fabricate something.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 03:14 PM
  #7  
KansasCityREPU's Avatar
Out In the Barn
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,704
Likes: 1,250
From: KC
It's hard to tell from the JW pic that the carb needs to be oriented backwards to that of the RB manifold.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 03:58 PM
  #8  
Jeff20B's Avatar
Lapping = Fapping
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 15,725
Likes: 91
From: Near Seattle
The carb doesn't need to be oriented backwards on a JW. I think the OP has a weird carb.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 04:07 PM
  #9  
freddyrx3's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,099
Likes: 3
From: new jersey
Yes. JW intake/Holley Carb/RB cable bracket and LoKar throttle cable is all you need for this setup.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 05:49 PM
  #10  
wankel=awesome's Avatar
carb whisperer
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 4
From: Greenfield, Ohio
His carb is probably backwards.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:24 PM
  #11  
lowpsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: DFW, TX
Yes the throttle linkage is on the opposite side as the RB Holley. The JW manifold moves the carb very close to the alternator and thermostat/water neck. The hard line fuel inlet to the bowls will hit the water neck if I flip the carb to put the throttle on the firewall side.

Unfortunately I can't get a hold of the previous owner to discuss how it was installed on the REPU.

Goal is to get it driving then put Webers on ASAP
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2016 | 06:39 PM
  #12  
KansasCityREPU's Avatar
Out In the Barn
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,704
Likes: 1,250
From: KC
If the goal is to put Weber's on you might want to skip putting this Holley on. You could also move the alternator to the drivers side where the AC/PS would go.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2016 | 12:04 AM
  #13  
rxtasy3's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 9,579
Likes: 290
From: Spartanburg, SC
get a pic of the carb u have. all the 4bbl carbs i've dealt with, whether it be stock, holley, or edelbrock, have the throttle connection on the firewall side of the carb when sitting on the intake.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2016 | 04:06 AM
  #14  
wankel=awesome's Avatar
carb whisperer
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 4
From: Greenfield, Ohio
Originally Posted by lowpsi
Yes the throttle linkage is on the opposite side as the RB Holley. The JW manifold moves the carb very close to the alternator and thermostat/water neck. The hard line fuel inlet to the bowls will hit the water neck if I flip the carb to put the throttle on the firewall side.

Unfortunately I can't get a hold of the previous owner to discuss how it was installed on the REPU.

Goal is to get it driving then put Webers on ASAP
It's backwards.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2016 | 06:40 PM
  #15  
lowpsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: DFW, TX


Here's a decent photo of one like it. Did I mention it's a 750dp and completely oversized!

Webers will come once I can verify the motor is good and burn off a set of tires. After 5 years I just want it running. I'm sure many can relate.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2016 | 06:55 PM
  #16  
wankel=awesome's Avatar
carb whisperer
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 4
From: Greenfield, Ohio
Originally Posted by lowpsi


Here's a decent photo of one like it. Did I mention it's a 750dp and completely oversized!

Webers will come once I can verify the motor is good and burn off a set of tires. After 5 years I just want it running. I'm sure many can relate.

Take the carb off the manifold, and flip it around. It's backwards.
Reply
Old Jun 13, 2016 | 07:55 PM
  #17  
lowpsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: DFW, TX
Originally Posted by wankel=awesome
Take the carb off the manifold, and flip it around. It's backwards.
Consider me dense... one issue with flipping it is the hard-line for the fuel bowls hits the water neck. May be less of an ordeal than making a throttle bracket though. Thanks for continuing to beat me over the head with the obvious... it may stick eventually .
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2016 | 05:41 AM
  #18  
wankel=awesome's Avatar
carb whisperer
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 4
From: Greenfield, Ohio
Originally Posted by lowpsi
Consider me dense... one issue with flipping it is the hard-line for the fuel bowls hits the water neck. May be less of an ordeal than making a throttle bracket though. Thanks for continuing to beat me over the head with the obvious... it may stick eventually .
If the hard lines hit the water neck, they simply don't fit.

Running that carb backwards like that isn't going to run right anyways, since your primary venturi will be supplying fuel to your secondary ports...
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2016 | 12:06 PM
  #19  
Carl's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 845
Likes: 135
From: Cardiff, CA
Since the JW is a single plane manifold, it probably does not matter which direction the carb is oriented. Does it? Aren't all the outlet holes of the Holley the same size? I do not have one handy to check, but I am sure that someone does. Is the Racing Beat manifold also single plane? I assume so, but could very easily be wrong.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2016 | 03:55 PM
  #20  
wankel=awesome's Avatar
carb whisperer
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 4
From: Greenfield, Ohio
Originally Posted by Carl
Since the JW is a single plane manifold, it probably does not matter which direction the carb is oriented. Does it? Aren't all the outlet holes of the Holley the same size? I do not have one handy to check, but I am sure that someone does. Is the Racing Beat manifold also single plane? I assume so, but could very easily be wrong.
It isn't single plane, it's 4 hole. I made a single plane one though. Yet to test.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2016 | 04:25 PM
  #21  
Carl's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 845
Likes: 135
From: Cardiff, CA
Jegs says JW manifold is single plane. It can have 4 holes and still be single plane. What does the plenum look like below the holes? If it is all one big space it is single plane. If there are two totally separate spaces (plenums actually) then it is dual plane.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2016 | 05:22 PM
  #22  
Carl's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 845
Likes: 135
From: Cardiff, CA
From online pictures it looks like the RB manifold is probably dual-plane. I am just asking out of curiosity.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2016 | 06:26 AM
  #23  
wankel=awesome's Avatar
carb whisperer
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,485
Likes: 4
From: Greenfield, Ohio
Originally Posted by Carl
From online pictures it looks like the RB manifold is probably dual-plane. I am just asking out of curiosity.
It's totally separate runners all the way down. And the JW secondary ports are massive.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2016 | 09:34 AM
  #24  
Carl's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 845
Likes: 135
From: Cardiff, CA
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rx7b13
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
3
Apr 28, 2016 01:29 PM
Coochas
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
15
Mar 23, 2016 10:30 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:09 PM.