Latin270

Well again if my research shows me smaller will work for my application than 500cfm should do. Bottom line is I wont go the Holley route again!

jim_chung

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I personally haven't had any problems with the Holley, in fact it drives very much like stock and my fuel economy has been excellent. It is important to have a wideband O2 sensor to tune accurately and that at least is where the Holleys shine. There are so few variables to alter that tuning is really quite simple. My secondaries aren't even jetted - it comes with a metering block that happens to be a little on the rich side which is what I needed during boost.

I know that Racing Beat supposedly performs a large number of modfications to their Holley setup but mine was stock out of the box. I just had to buy the kit to convert from electric to manual choke, fab some brackets for throttle linkage and OMP linkage and install a fitting for the oil lines.

nick812

I wanted to use the mikuni but couldnt find a used intake i woud of had to pay more fo just a intake than i did for the holley and intake.

pedro

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[B] hi every one
i have a ? i have a 85 can anyone tell me what is the bwst fuel pump i can use.i had work done but its not working right.the engine mod is 12a monster street port,j-bridge,holley 650,
and this is # 2 turbo.Im runing out of gas when im going to 2 gear for a a split sec then it pick up fast help pleasethank you all

trochoid

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All the details except what pump and fpr you are running now.

Jozay721

is holley really that bad, does the one from racing beat come with mechanical secondaries??

Paradox

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one thing i havent seen answered, are you running a 12a or 13b?

Latin270

I had a huge problem getting my car to run correctly when I had my RB set up. I wonder what it is they do to the Holleys that makes them so thought after. I'm not impressed. You would think if modded for our cars one would be able to install a RB Holley and it would be smooth sailing after some tweaking. For the price IMHO....its not worth it. You'd get the same results getting a Holley from ebay for $150-$200, along with a used intake for about $150-$175 and going from there.

Paradox

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normal holley you'll just blow the power valve over and over... but that can be fixed

i'd really like to know just exactly what RB does to their holleys to make them so special, because mine sucks.

Jozay721

i got a 12a but anyways i was going to get a holley but i hear all this bad talk and am really havin second thoughts. so wat is better than a holley then, a carter, weber??

jim_chung

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There has been a lot of past posts about which carb is better but as long as you have the manifold almost any carb will work, some will have better top end and others are more tractable.

Holleys are simple and 4 barrel design gives good fuel economy. Don't forget the stock Nikki is very much like a Holley. I think the crucial error is choosing a carb that is too big - I only run a 380 cfm Holley with a draw through turbo running 8 lbs boost and it is big enough. Otherwise your secondaries will never open and you'll never realize any performance gains.

nick812

OK this i kinda getting away from what i was tring to ask when i started this tread. Ok i understand the 600 is to big but its all in teh jetting right? I mean i heard of people running dual 48's and i think that is crazy but if it is tunned right and setup good does it matter? Ok on to my new question since it seams like the holley i got is more trouble than i care to full with what is the best carb i can mount to this intake and get my car running. Also just to let every1 know i do have stock nikki and mikuni and even weber i also did run racing beat dellorto setup. I was wanting to try something different and it seams to be kicking me in the but now. So if any 1 wants to buy the holley setup i will sell for what i paid for it or if any1 has a side drafy intake will trade for it also. Thanks agian for all the replys.

Siraniko

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True on the 48's however, unlike the holley's and nikki's, we are able to change the venturies. Large venturies are good for top-end but sucky on the low-end.

nick812

yea well i guess that is what i get for thinking. I do have 1 more thought i think if i cant get something done i am gonna break this f ing carb. O well i am back on the serch for a sidedraft intake.

20bdreams

i have a holley 600 from racing beat and the only problems ive ever had was when i forst got my car back from the shop after being changed from EFI to carb and street ported, after the break in of my engine it has run bad *** ever since. i have 13b though maybe thats why...my car has also been in storage for about 3 years and everytime i come back to it it fires up no problem...i love it, maybe it just depends on the set up you have all together. i really dont know though

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jim_chung

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Nick,


Nice RB sidedraft manifold on eBay for cheap!


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/For-s...em200028615616

nick812

yea i already bet on it but 1 thing i didnt know was it is in the Netherlands shipping might be a little high.

vipernicus42

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Wrong.

If it was just jets, then they would just sell one carb and various different jet kits.

The actual width of the barrels are different. What will happen with a 600 is that the primaries are too big to get good power down low, and since they're so big, you don't max them out until WAY further into your powerband. By the time you crack your secondaries open, it's time to shift. You'll be playing with jets until the end of time and IF you finally get jets that let you take off without bogging, they'll cause problems elsewhere in the powerband.

I think that's why Holleys have such a bad rep around here. People either a) slap big ones on, then spend hours and hours trying to tune it and fail, so they get fed up and blame it on holley or b) they buy the right sized holley but just slap it on and don't tune it.

I mean, I'm not a big fan of holley myself, but that's mostly because they're cheap, mass produced 4-barrel carbs. Anything a Holley can do on our car, a Nikki can be modded to do just as well if you know the right people.

You never answered me about how you "tried" to contact Sterling/Rx7Carl.... try them again. Or if you don't wanna do that, get the proper sized holley or get a weber or dellorto... But no matter which carb you get, be ready to learn how to tune it. In the end, you're going to be the only person who really knows your car and your carb that well, and the success or failure of it will be based on how much time and effort you put into tuning *after* you slap it on.

Jon

Siraniko

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Im still waiting for my Sterlng Carb...a freebie from Dennis and Carl. Im very disappointed.

trochoid

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Something doesn't look right with that intake. All the 12Aones I have seen are 1 piece and the extra hole at the top center looks odd. I have no idea what that is for.

nick812

it is in the Netherlands maybe that has something to do with it. i thought it looked kinda funny to.

Siraniko

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the extra hole is not part of the carb. Its a plastic table. The hole is where the umbrella goes to. Look at the 2nd pix.

nick812

lol that funny i didnt notice that. I hope i win it i really woud rather run the sidedraft.

trochoid

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I need to get my eyes checked. Still, all the 12A manis I've seen are 1 piece. even if it's a 13B one, it's well worth the money.

Jozay721

do u guys think a sterling would be better than a holley 465?? on a stock port.