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Old 04-19-06, 08:26 PM
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HID projectors

If someone *does* make a fixed-headlamp kit, or even a sleepy-eye one, these HID projectors will fit once you take the shroud off (kit was originally for a 7" round, but is designed to sit 'forward' so the back only goes as deep as a stock sealed beam... this means the front bubbles out and wouldn't clear the opening in a stock flipup lamp)

They use Philips bulbs and ballasts (not shown)

I first took the main shroud off to see what just the projector was like. Here it is next to a DVD for size comparison (no cracks about the movie - I happen to think its hilarious).
Note that everything is sealed plastic, from the D1S base cover to the glass projector lens retainer:


The shroud was attached with 4 screws - each of the screw holes has a brass insert for threads (as opposed to threaded plastic holes, in which its far easier to strip the threads):


The outer lens on the shroud is clearly marked with DOT compliance, and HG to indicate it's meant to contain an HID projector:


The grey cap on top is a vent to allow heated air out of the shroud while maintaining a water resistant seal. In this shot you can see (from left to right) the plastic cap that encloses the D1S bulb, the projector body, the electronics sealed in the black box mounted along the bottom of the body, the shroud bezel with grey vent cap, the spacer ring, the metal retainer ring (with O-ring gasket inside, not shown), and the clear (non-fresneled) projector lens.


a front view of the assembly, minus the shroud:


I took off the metal lens retainer, and here I'm removing the O-ring gasket that keeps water out of the front of the projector (the back has a plastic cap, as seen in the pics above):


Here's looking into the projector with the lens and spacer ring removed. This is a bi-xenon unit, and you can see the simple vertical solenoid that pushes up the step-pattern shield for low beam (remember, the beam flips upside down while passing through the lens):


and from the side:
Old 04-19-06, 08:49 PM
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thats what i would get if i were to do a sleepy eye conversion, which i plan to do, Theres one nice set up one guy has on here with 2 bulbs that size in each lamp housing and its the nicest sleepy eye kit i have seen
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And where can these be gotten and for wht price? I plan on doing a sleepyeye setup and this is exactly what I have been looking for.
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BTW the projector is a 50mm unit - the shroud bezel is just a plastic collar.
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Uhg, i dont know if you guys remember but about three weeks ago we had this topic. Im planning on building a set of sleepy eyes and a set of flush headlights as prototypes. If you search "aftermarket headlights" i think you will find the topic.

EDIT: Sorry i misread the explanation. These would be good candiates for the kit. Thanks for the info. How much did you say they were for 4?

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Old 04-19-06, 10:36 PM
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They're supposed to be (brace yourself, now) $999 a set, everything (ballasts, bulbs, shipping, etc.) included but a little bird told me that's about to drop to $799 or less.
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Huh, for the sleepy eye conversion or the lights themself. Thats wicked expensive either way. Im saying that if i make a kit it would about 350 for everything
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Cheap HID is illegal, unsafe HID. To keep price down you'd have to go halogen, but LEDs are about to become the norm for headlights and HID the lower-tech option, and halogen the ghetto option, so I wouldn't build a kit around the latter...
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