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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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help 2 gen tranny in 1st gen

is it possible to put a 2nd gen tranny in with a 13b in to a 1st gen. help please
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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sure, done many times. just do a search and see. In my case I stuck a 13b tii motor with tii gearbox into my first gen. This is what you have to watch out for :

1) the 13b motor is physically longer than the 12A, so you need to get the front mount bracket from mazdatrix.
2) also order the 12A->13B sump from mazdatrix....this will make sure you clear the steering link (see pic)
3) modify the tranny tailpiece...basically this moves the gearstick forward about an inch
4) use your std tranny cross member but you have to fabricate your own tranny mount (see pic for an example of what I did)
5) gearbox will be slightly longer means you need to have a driveshaft fabricated to fit. do this last once motor and tranny is in

end result is a neat fit with gear stick perfect in hole
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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also would it be eaiser to just put the rear end from a 2nd gen in to the 1st gen to make it go eaiser?
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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NO! The 2nd gen does not share the live rear axel with the 1st gen. If you do that swap, you will need a good bit of fabrication skills, and a nice welder.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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To put a 2nd gen N/A trans in, all you would have to do is swap the tailshaft housing from the 1st gen trans. Other than slight gearing differences between 1 & 4, Far higher 5th, and the tailshaft housing, the 2nd gen N/A trans is the same size as the 1st gen.
The 2nd gen trans have a much higher 5th gear. It is really too high for the stock 3.90 rear gear ratio of a first gen. You would be running such a low RPM in 5th, that you wouldn't have much acceleration capacity without major HP output. Of course, you could always lower the rear gear ratio to accomodate the taller 5th gear.....
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Old May 10, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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If you're swapping do the 13B-turbo swap. I think the 85 GSL-SE's came with 13B's in that case if you're looking for FI? Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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so i kinda need a yes or no anwser to the question to just put the 2nd gen rear end on the 1st gen
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Old May 11, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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@nd gen rear is indepedent(sp) and will require a good deal of fabricatioo, down time and knowing what you are doing. Unless you ar just talking about swapping out the gears. Dosnt Kia gears or something like that fit.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by stevie1020
so i kinda need a yes or no anwser to the question to just put the 2nd gen rear end on the 1st gen
If you have to ask about the engine and tranny swap, I suspect the fabrication needed for irs is well beyond your mechanical skills. It has surpassed your search skills already.


Just in case you don't understand, the answer is no.
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