Headlight linkage bushings
02-27-11, 11:54 PM
#1
Headlight linkage bushings
I've never been able to find replacements for the headlight linkage bushings and its pretty pricey to buy each arm so I'm thinking about making new ones myself. I found some good ones in my stash so I was going to make molds and cast new ones but I'm not sure what to use. My first thought was Delrin but that has to be injection molded or machined so I need a new idea. It has to be somewhat flexible but though enough to hold up to years of use. Anyone have any ideas?
02-28-11, 12:00 PM
#4
I had pretty good luck pour-casting with urethane. You could injection-mold with it using disposable syringes, I suppose - - haven't tried that yet as I don't have a supply of them.
The hard part is getting air out of the tiny corners, tends to make for some ragged-looking tips on the 'teeth.' Doesn't interfere with function, though.
The hard part is getting air out of the tiny corners, tends to make for some ragged-looking tips on the 'teeth.' Doesn't interfere with function, though.
02-28-11, 07:06 PM
#5
I did a little more searching myself and Urethane seemed like a good choice to. I think I read something a while back about you wanting to make these yourself but I couldn't find the thread. Do you have any pics of the finished product? If you still have the molds and materials would you be willing to make a few?
02-28-11, 07:50 PM
#6
You can also get the whole new rod with bushings. http://www.blackdragonauto.com/icata....aspx?Page=132 I got some back when it was Victoria British and they still work.
02-28-11, 07:56 PM
#7
I did a little more searching myself and Urethane seemed like a good choice to. I think I read something a while back about you wanting to make these yourself but I couldn't find the thread. Do you have any pics of the finished product? If you still have the molds and materials would you be willing to make a few?
Thinking about making new molds to cast the large rod bushings right onto the rods, but time's been a problem for me for quite a while.
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Bit more complex project I did at the same time:
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03-01-11, 10:14 AM
#11
Current version was then re-carved to accommodate an FB mirror switch and my foglight switch; I've since been able to get a real true SA mirror control, and will make a new bracket to hold it from my original mold.
Do you have a good source for supplies?
I guess I'll have to do some more research on my own.
03-01-11, 02:43 PM
#14
They have a much higher wear factor, of course... higher cycle speed, heavier dynamic and shock load, continuous run for hours sometimes. I haven't tested the urethanes in that use for the simple reason that my original wiper bushings are still good, and I don't have spare arms to experiment with.
lol. I understand. I guess I'll have to do some more research on my own.
03-01-11, 02:57 PM
#15
dark side i sense in him
I would be interested. Mine are in about the same shape, but going through the painful effort of replacing all the 26 year old stuff on my car lol.
03-02-11, 11:18 PM
#20
With all this renewed interest, I broke out my supplies and tried pouring a few sets tonight. Seems like my urethane is still good (it does have a shelf life), though it is taking a bit longer to harden than it used to - might just be cause it's wintertime and 10 deg cooler in the house.
Takes me about 45 mins to make four bushings (2 large, 2 small) including casting time and trimming/sanding. Smaller bushings you can bolt on with 4-40 hardware & a drop of loctite as I did, or I supose you could rivet them like he originals if you wanted. Large bushings are single-sided, and are meant to be epoxied onto the rods. Easy enough to chip it back off later if additional replacements are needed.
Jonathan, I'm using Shore 70D hardness urethane at this point. They have a bit more flex than the originals, which I hope will reduce cracking. If the set I made for myself, I've had one of the little 'fingers' crack so far, but it doesn't hamper operation at all.
I'm making up a set for DorkScyd, since he's local and I can hand them to him, and he asked me a long time ago. If he decides he likes them Ok, I'll make arrangements to do more.
What do you guys think is a fair deal for a set of 2large/2small? Materials cost isn't horrible if making a lot of them. It's mostly time.
Takes me about 45 mins to make four bushings (2 large, 2 small) including casting time and trimming/sanding. Smaller bushings you can bolt on with 4-40 hardware & a drop of loctite as I did, or I supose you could rivet them like he originals if you wanted. Large bushings are single-sided, and are meant to be epoxied onto the rods. Easy enough to chip it back off later if additional replacements are needed.
Jonathan, I'm using Shore 70D hardness urethane at this point. They have a bit more flex than the originals, which I hope will reduce cracking. If the set I made for myself, I've had one of the little 'fingers' crack so far, but it doesn't hamper operation at all.
I'm making up a set for DorkScyd, since he's local and I can hand them to him, and he asked me a long time ago. If he decides he likes them Ok, I'll make arrangements to do more.
What do you guys think is a fair deal for a set of 2large/2small? Materials cost isn't horrible if making a lot of them. It's mostly time.
03-04-11, 01:22 PM
#24
Just thinking out loud, here:
Between silicone mold materials and urethane, it cost me about $80 to tool up using the smallest quantity of each I could buy. That amount of materials will make several sets, but that was the out-of-pocket to be able to make the first one. Other stuff like screws, waxed paper, measuring & mixing containers, etc. means about $100 outlay to prep to do it.
Not out to make mad bank out of it, but recouping costs would be great.
I'm thinking somewhere around $10 to $12 for a set of four (one "side" as it were; 2 small, 2 large, with proper 4-40 screws for installing the small ones) plus mailing cost, would be a fair cover for costs and time involved, between casting, trimming, sanding and packing. Maybe a couple bucks' discount for single orders for two sets (enough to do the whole car).
I'll see if the small bushings are in fact the right size for the headlight rods. If they are, I'm not sure how well they'd hold up in that application, so I might want to find someone willing to 'beta-test' them in return for a couple. Mine are still in near-new shape & don't need changing yet.
I dropped off a set for delivery to Dorkcyd3 last night; maybe he'll look em over and provide some input on what they seem to be worth.
Between silicone mold materials and urethane, it cost me about $80 to tool up using the smallest quantity of each I could buy. That amount of materials will make several sets, but that was the out-of-pocket to be able to make the first one. Other stuff like screws, waxed paper, measuring & mixing containers, etc. means about $100 outlay to prep to do it.
Not out to make mad bank out of it, but recouping costs would be great.
I'm thinking somewhere around $10 to $12 for a set of four (one "side" as it were; 2 small, 2 large, with proper 4-40 screws for installing the small ones) plus mailing cost, would be a fair cover for costs and time involved, between casting, trimming, sanding and packing. Maybe a couple bucks' discount for single orders for two sets (enough to do the whole car).
I'll see if the small bushings are in fact the right size for the headlight rods. If they are, I'm not sure how well they'd hold up in that application, so I might want to find someone willing to 'beta-test' them in return for a couple. Mine are still in near-new shape & don't need changing yet.
I dropped off a set for delivery to Dorkcyd3 last night; maybe he'll look em over and provide some input on what they seem to be worth.
03-04-11, 06:32 PM
#25
That seems pretty fair. If you do decide to make these go ahead and put me down for 3 sets. Then I can do the whole car plus have a couple extras just in case. I would test them as wiper bushings but mine are in good shape since I got the whole wiper assembly off of a California car with under 100,000 on it. Not much use of the wipers there. Lol.