GSL-SE from various countries, Whats the difference
06-07-04, 11:10 PM
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Red is used for lighting to preserve night vision. The color issue has been very well studied for the last 40 or 50 years and the verdict is "white on black," for optimum contrast and visibility in an aircraft or race/sports car. In airplanes, where function--i.e. ability to read the instruments--is the only consideration, it is white on black. Since aesthetics and decoration are important for sales, we have other colors in cars.
06-08-04, 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by peejay
That's not an option, that is a dealer-installed accessory, like the rear spoiler.
You bought it after-the-fact and the dealer installed it for you.
That's not an option, that is a dealer-installed accessory, like the rear spoiler.
You bought it after-the-fact and the dealer installed it for you.
, it's right there pre-printed on the original MSRP I still have in the car, and wasn't standard on the SEs. It could be bought from the dealer's parts department for about $250, but I'm not sure if that one was tinted bronze like the ones that came with the car. The "options" dealers installed that were separate were body kits, a/c, cruise, stereos (if not originally in car), roof racks, bras, tonneau covers, etc.
Cockpit lights for small planes dash's at night are red in color
I think the 84-85 dash is the best one in the first gens, and I've owned all versions. It still looks awesome at night and has a great layout-even 20yrs later.
The only thing I'd ever change is if they offered indiglo gauges in orange, and the stereo (of course)!
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06-08-04, 02:54 AM
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Mmm, now this is the part where tatste differs.I hate the Red backlighting of my gauge cluster.
Reminds me of the `70`s Fords.YUCK!
Well,we never got a GSLE here.The really special ones here are the Series3.
12A,beehive oil cooler,factory sunroof.i think it had Ps as well,and the seat material was much nicer patterns.
I have only seen one of them in my life though,very limited.
Karis
Reminds me of the `70`s Fords.YUCK!
Well,we never got a GSLE here.The really special ones here are the Series3.
12A,beehive oil cooler,factory sunroof.i think it had Ps as well,and the seat material was much nicer patterns.
I have only seen one of them in my life though,very limited.
Karis
06-08-04, 06:00 PM
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The dealer probably tacked the item on, as a profit-enhancing gesture, then added it to the sticker. Things like that do happen... 
BTW - both of my '70s Fords and a friend's two 70's Fords all had green backlighting. So neener neener.
BTW - both of my '70s Fords and a friend's two 70's Fords all had green backlighting. So neener neener.
06-09-04, 07:46 AM
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2 additions - Red lighting in aircraft allow maximum pupil dilation, so you can still see "other" sources of light well...important when 2 aircraft (or ships) are on a collision course.
The GSL-SE in Canada came with a secondary washer fluid system that washed down the headlights.
The GSL-SE in Canada came with a secondary washer fluid system that washed down the headlights.
06-09-04, 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by cosmicbang
Red is used for lighting to preserve night vision. The color issue has been very well studied for the last 40 or 50 years and the verdict is "white on black," for optimum contrast and visibility in an aircraft or race/sports car. In airplanes, where function--i.e. ability to read the instruments--is the only consideration, it is white on black. Since aesthetics and decoration are important for sales, we have other colors in cars.
Red is used for lighting to preserve night vision. The color issue has been very well studied for the last 40 or 50 years and the verdict is "white on black," for optimum contrast and visibility in an aircraft or race/sports car. In airplanes, where function--i.e. ability to read the instruments--is the only consideration, it is white on black. Since aesthetics and decoration are important for sales, we have other colors in cars.
The highest contrast is yellow on black. The highest "vibration" is red on blue.
Green is the color the human eye cares most about (next to the B&W value of course) - about 50% more than the Red or Blue components in fact. Most compression standards (including modern broadcast) take that into consideration by leaving as much green (in RGB) intact as possible.
Red is softer on the eyes due to a longer wavelength - purple would be the spectral opposite. ROYGBIV ring a bell? longer wavelengths on the left, shorter on the right. For higher (and more precise) CD writers, blue lasers are being used to get more data on the same size CD - with a smaller wavelength than red (by far) they are able to write their "lines" closer together.
Hrm - think that about does it for now
I've enjoyed reading about the differences by market as well
06-09-04, 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by Mills
Bullshit, it's right there pre-printed on the original MSRP I still have in the car
Bullshit
, it's right there pre-printed on the original MSRP I still have in the car
The fact is the glass roof was a factory option on SE's, why do you think only some of them are bronze, and 90% are the normal dark color?Don't make me dig out all the original sale paperwork for pics, this POS forum won't let me post pics anymore for some reason.
The headlamp washers are a cool little item I wish our cars had, I wonder if they are good for anything but conversation, though. Eh?
06-09-04, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by RotaryNotary
2 additions - Red lighting in aircraft allow maximum pupil dilation, so you can still see "other" sources of light well...important when 2 aircraft (or ships) are on a collision course.
2 additions - Red lighting in aircraft allow maximum pupil dilation, so you can still see "other" sources of light well...important when 2 aircraft (or ships) are on a collision course.
06-09-04, 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by kleinke
Many RX-7's arrive at the port without air conditioning, or with no sunroof at all (even 1994 RX-7 in this condition). The importer or dealer installed the sunroofs and airconditioining from a kit which Mazda provided. If it is a Mazda part be it spoiler, air dam, air conditioning, sunroof, rear seat, then what is the difference between accessory and option? It is the same result. You pay all the same.
You remember Mazda (the Japanese company, actually Toyo Kogyo) had a different arrangement for selling cars than other car manufacturers. The distribution scheme in use at the time allowed the importer in each country to pick what options/accessiories/whatever.. the RX-7s would be shipped and sold with. In other words, it was the importer who determined what type of brakes, wheels, etc., and whether the cars would have headlight washers, power steering, full-size spare, rear seats, etc. The "importer" was either a distributor in the case of Mazda North America or the dealer scheme in the UK and some other countries at the time. That is why they could be sold in all these seemingly crazy combinations. There was an item not available everywhere: the 84-85 dash. They did not make the later dash style in a RHD version. I don't remember why not. If anyone knows the reason why please say so.
Many RX-7's arrive at the port without air conditioning, or with no sunroof at all (even 1994 RX-7 in this condition). The importer or dealer installed the sunroofs and airconditioining from a kit which Mazda provided. If it is a Mazda part be it spoiler, air dam, air conditioning, sunroof, rear seat, then what is the difference between accessory and option? It is the same result. You pay all the same.
You remember Mazda (the Japanese company, actually Toyo Kogyo) had a different arrangement for selling cars than other car manufacturers. The distribution scheme in use at the time allowed the importer in each country to pick what options/accessiories/whatever.. the RX-7s would be shipped and sold with. In other words, it was the importer who determined what type of brakes, wheels, etc., and whether the cars would have headlight washers, power steering, full-size spare, rear seats, etc. The "importer" was either a distributor in the case of Mazda North America or the dealer scheme in the UK and some other countries at the time. That is why they could be sold in all these seemingly crazy combinations. There was an item not available everywhere: the 84-85 dash. They did not make the later dash style in a RHD version. I don't remember why not. If anyone knows the reason why please say so.
the gsl-se and the automatic 12a with power steering seem to be the only factory a/c equipped 1st gens.
manntis: he doesnt mean they cut a hole in the roof, he means the sunroof panel is just not installed
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