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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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I just had this bad flooding problem last night...........................
SO here is what i did
Pull the trailing plugs out
disconnected the trailing Blue connector (@ the coil)
and crank the car Until my battery died<<<<LOL
let it stay overnight
ANd this morning I put the plugs back in AND BAM! Started Right Up
And I also found a exhaust leak In the turbo/downpipe Gasket (Hella gas came out)
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:05 PM
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not the fuel pump switch...heres an explanation of what i mean


go to wal mart and buy 12' of 12 gauge insulated wire, maybe $3 also buy some electrical tape $1 and a 12 volt 30 amp on/off switch from the automotive section $3 and an in line fuse holder.

behind the drivers seat there is a storage box (duh) take it out. there is a clarion amp and a pair of wires leading through the body of the car to the undercarriage. this is the power and ground for the fuel pump itself. cut both the wires and check out a shop manual for which is power and which is ground (wires i think are black and blue and solid black) splice 6' of wire from the 'on' terminal on the switch to the fuel pump wire and the other end of the hot wire to the other terminal on the switch so that when you turn the switch to 'off' the fuel pump is getting no power at all.

with the pump OFF start to turn the motor, while it is cranking (about 1/2 sec into it) flick the switch so the pump gets juice, and when you go to shut the car off turn off the fuel pump and let the engine die by itself (2-3 seconds). i installed my switches by the ignition in the dash so i can flick it with my right hand while im cranking, but you can have it sitting pretty much anywhere as long as you cover all terminal and wire contacts with electrical tape. its pretty simple, and keeps all 3 of my FB's (even the carbureted one) starting and running with no flooding problems

too much work involved with that one. here's the easiest way. Find the fuel pump relay under the dash. In the relay, there are 2 wires that have identical colors. One of those wires is the + to the relay. The other is the relay's controller=====cut, splice and install the switch.

In fact, you can even use a regular fog lights relay to replace the factory fuel pump relay.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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too much work involved with that one. here's the easiest way. Find the fuel pump relay under the dash. In the relay, there are 2 wires that have identical colors. One of those wires is the + to the relay. The other is the relay's controller=====cut, splice and install the switch.

In fact, you can even use a regular fog lights relay to replace the factory fuel pump relay.
where's that relay?
My car floods almost every time i dont let the turbo timer on!
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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My dad's has a fuel pump wire on his 12A GSL but I didn’t think the SE had one besides the 'engine' fuse.

Mine already has a toggle switch that was used for fog lights (before I removed the wiring) that’s just sort of in the hole where the CHOKE would be if it was a 12A. Anyways, would this work? I have no idea of the amperage rating.

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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What happened to actually fixing the problem? Instead of being ********. Your rx-7s are obviously short term investments.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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Now I'm confused, the fuel pump switch isnt the proper way?
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Kory_yahi
Your rx-7s are obviously short term investments.
cars are never investments in the 1st place
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by d0 Luck
cars are never investments in the 1st place
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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here's the link to the relay.
http://www.wankel.net/%7Ekrwright/files/manuals/1985_RX7_FSM/85RX7(50)Wiring_Diagrams.pdf

page 14

Fuel Pump Cut Relay

the wires that control the relay (#B-06), either install the switch on the B/W or B/Y. when voltage is present, that swigley line closes the contactors between the other B/W and L/W to turn on the pump.

Why in hell do you wanna put the switch in the dash. Hide it somewhere else and dont make it obvious.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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lol because I'm cheap and there's already a toggle switch in the dash, I plan on putting a rocker switch behind the arm rest or something later down the road, I just wanted to see if this would solve my problem.

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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lol. yeah, pm me and i will tell y a where to put it.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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pmed you
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by d0 Luck
cars are never investments in the 1st place
Well maybe for you if you sit at home all day . I am guessing you are like every other day-to-day person and you sometimes maybe go to the grocery store, maybe go out to the movies or perhaps a bar to pick up chicks? or just to go to work.

Number 1: If you are the type of guy to pick up chicks, and using your car is one definite measure of that, then I would think your car is an investment on picking up chicks... or guys if you are that way.

Number 2: I really hope you don't have to go to the store on foot or to work flintstone style on your bicycle.

When I say investment here, I mean something dependable and reliable that will get you through your day. Why just take the ******* way out and be cheap and let the problem continue when you can get it fixed and get more out of your "investment" and not have to keep paying more then you should.

But if we are talking about the old school muscle cars or the hot rods that just sit there and increae in value... and you guys don't consider that an investment,then you guys are just plain
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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screw you, read above.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Kory_yahi
Well maybe for you if you sit at home all day . I am guessing you are like every other day-to-day person and you sometimes maybe go to the grocery store, maybe go out to the movies or perhaps a bar to pick up chicks? or just to go to work.

Number 1: If you are the type of guy to pick up chicks, and using your car is one definite measure of that, then I would think your car is an investment on picking up chicks... or guys if you are that way.

Number 2: I really hope you don't have to go to the store on foot or to work flintstone style on your bicycle.

When I say investment here, I mean something dependable and reliable that will get you through your day. Why just take the ******* way out and be cheap and let the problem continue when you can get it fixed and get more out of your "investment" and not have to keep paying more then you should.

But if we are talking about the old school muscle cars or the hot rods that just sit there and increae in value... and you guys don't consider that an investment,then you guys are just plain
okay. that is just one of most ridiculous answer we've all heard before.

you want reliability and long term investment guaranteed? then get a brand new toyota corolla or mazda 3. both offer 100k warranty plans. honda too.
that 15k on a brand new car will most likely be a much wiser investment in comparison w/ a $500 rx7 lemon. think about long term.

and talk about real old school? how practical is that? i'm not sure if you haven't noticed yet, but majority of people w/ 1st gen.'s are on a very tight budget. what makes you think about bringing up real muscle cars.. say such as an old school corvette? restoring one to achieve a desired value is close to impossible since most here are limited on capital (at least for the automotive hobby).

think about efficiency too. you can be spending time on something much more productive such as getting your grades to go to Caltech or investing on real esate which are low risks REITS for example.

no matter how you look at it, cars will rarely be an investment. it will only break even on paper if you even know how to manage your money.

the only real reason why i do what i do w/ auto hobby is to keep me from being a couch potato. being outside and moving is just as good as jogging; you burn a good amount of calories by just wrenching around.
that and i've never brought my cars to a single mechanic in my life to get fixed; my dad and wackyracer have taught me most if not all of what i need to know.

now that is a real investment... saving money.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 12:28 AM
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What i have been trying to instill in tech greek is to invest in himself. That means braking down and buying some proper testing equipment and do things the correct way.
I have and never will believe in bypassing a problem for anything than a short term fix while i a m planning on doing it the correct way.
Sometimes taking the easy or cheap way out will cost you more in the long run.
A simple sending out of the injectors for cleaning in most cases willl solve his problem.
Were talking about a $40.-$60. investment. Do away with the beer for a month and there you have it. It's a matter of priorities.
As i stated in a earlier response to this that the problem will lead to more serious expensive problems.
It's amazing how many people i see state that most 1st gen owners are on a tight budget.
then i see all kinds of posts about turbo's and swapping 13b's into 12a's and inquiring about standalone ssytems, etc. Don't kid yourself anyone can disclipline themselves to accuire things if it that important to do. I bet tech could go out a blow $50.00 in new cd's in aheartbeat. Like i said if you are not willing to make a investment in the reliability of your car
then you should be prepared to buy a new one with a warranty or get a bike.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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okay. that is just one of most ridiculous answer we've all heard before.

you want reliability and long term investment guaranteed? then get a brand new toyota corolla or mazda 3. both offer 100k warranty plans. honda too.
that 15k on a brand new car will most likely be a much wiser investment in comparison w/ a $500 rx7 lemon. think about long term.

and talk about real old school? how practical is that? i'm not sure if you haven't noticed yet, but majority of people w/ 1st gen.'s are on a very tight budget. what makes you think about bringing up real muscle cars.. say such as an old school corvette? restoring one to achieve a desired value is close to impossible since most here are limited on capital (at least for the automotive hobby).

think about efficiency too. you can be spending time on something much more productive such as getting your grades to go to Caltech or investing on real esate which are low risks REITS for example.

no matter how you look at it, cars will rarely be an investment. it will only break even on paper if you even know how to manage your money.

the only real reason why i do what i do w/ auto hobby is to keep me from being a couch potato. being outside and moving is just as good as jogging; you burn a good amount of calories by just wrenching around.
that and i've never brought my cars to a single mechanic in my life to get fixed; my dad and wackyracer have taught me most if not all of what i need to know.

now that is a real investment... saving money.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=investment

1. The act of investing.
2. An amount invested.
3. Property or another possession acquired for future financial return or benefit.
4. A commitment, as of time or support.
5. A military siege.
6. Archaic.
1. A garment; a vestment.
2. An outer covering or layer.

When I said investment, I pretty much made it clear, or at least tried to let you guys know I didn't mean to the extent of investing as in putting money into stocks and hoping they gain points. My 88' GXL is an investment to me because I expect my car to get me to were I need to go (e.g. Work, Store, travel) and I try my best to keep the ability for my car to do that. I Invest into my car for "future financial return or benefit," to allow me to get to were I need to be to continue the cycle of a modern day persons boring life.

So maybe an Rx-7 wouldn't be the best "investment," like maybe a Honda. But who gives a ****, Rx-7s are WAY more badass and fun to drive then a Civic.

Agreed? I think so.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by d0 Luck

now that is a real investment... saving money.
And d0 Luck if you want me to get SUPER technical on your *** right as of now, saving money is not an investment unless you save it properly.
Confused?

Ok here is a hypathetical situation here with "saving your money."

So d0 Luck finally receives his paycheck from working at McDonalds ( ) He takes his check, cashes it then he takes the money and buries it in his back yard, never to be seen for 10 years. Let's say he buried 1,000 dollars in cash. 10 years later he opens up the chest takes out the money, but finds out that it is still 1,000 dollars and did not grow because it was just sitting in a chest not actually doing a damn thing. 10 years later that money (being worth 1,000 dollars to the standards of 10 years before) now is probably only worth 500 dollars compared to 10 years agos standards....

But if you meant saving money by putting it into a CD then I guess that could be considered investing... but all the interest would do is counter the inflation and I would not count it as that.

Sorry d0 Luck, just wanted to make you look like an *** because you called me rediculious.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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here we go again... back and forth. just for argument's sake. i'll let you have the last word.

nevermind.

you're wrong and you indirectly pointed it out for yourself.

"So maybe an Rx-7 wouldn't be the best "investment," like maybe a Honda. But who gives a ****, Rx-7s are WAY more badass and fun to drive then a Civic."

great answer

maybe next time you try to argue, you wouldn't bring another "ridiculous" answer to the table.

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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 01:42 AM
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here we go again... back and forth. just for argument's sake. i'll let you have the last word.

nevermind.

you're wrong and you indirectly pointed it out for yourself.

"So maybe an Rx-7 wouldn't be the best "investment," like maybe a Honda. But who gives a ****, Rx-7s are WAY more badass and fun to drive then a Civic."

great answer

maybe next time you try to argue, you wouldn't bring another "ridiculous" answer to the table.
lol, maybe I am not the type of ******* who has to be right about everything. As long as I get my point across I am usually happy.

A car is an investment though pretty much no matter what. I don't ever remember saying an Rx-7 is the best investment in the first place. But you do own an rx-7 right? you do depend on the car in different ways right? if so then it is an investment for you. Please don't make me have to tell you the ways my car makes it an investment for me, again.

And who ever still thinks an rx-7 can't be an investment, just ask rx7doctor. Alot of the cars he has sitting around his place is just money waiting to be made. Through parts or just waitng to be finished to be sold as a whole.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 01:46 AM
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great answer

maybe next time you try to argue, you wouldn't bring another "ridiculous" answer to the table.
Btw I honestly don't care if I bring a ridiculous answer to your breakfast table, if I cared I wouldn't of gave you something to feed on just then. As long as I got my point through with you, and deep down you know that I schooled your *** in this little debate we had here, I will go to bed happy.
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Originally Posted by Kory_yahi
Btw I honestly don't care if I bring a ridiculous answer to your breakfast table, if I cared I wouldn't of gave you something to feed on just then. As long as I got my point through with you, and deep down you know that I schooled your *** in this little debate we had here, I will go to bed happy.
another great answer. you just broke the world record for the IQ chart.



you really just wouldn't shut the **** up huh. you're going in circles with your comments. school my ***?? i just proved you wrong and you keep running your mouth. do i have to quote you again on your own contradictions?? spare yourself from anymore humiliation.

i can take humor but when you point out w/ a guess that's entirely false and nearly make a comic out of it, it goes to show how much of a tard you are.

"I am guessing you are like every other day-to-day person and you sometimes maybe go to the grocery store, maybe go out to the movies or perhaps a bar to pick up chicks? or just to go to work."

for some reason known, i don't blame you having those types of comments; every teen goes through that 'yeah i think i know it all phase.' only you should keep these types of comments to yourself. you act as if you've been around and back. you need to humble yourself.

i'll say this one last time. if you want to argue, bring sensible answers to the table instead of "ridiculous" ones.
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 03:13 AM
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woha, i dont check on my thread for a few days and look what happens!

Anyway, my FPR (<- Fing expensive!) should be in... later today, if anyone still cares ill post where it gets me.
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Ok guys , quit the pissing match. I think everyone got off track here. Seems like halway thru this should of gone to the lounge,lol.
The real point is to try and repair our cars so they stay reliable and are able to have some fun with them instead of worrying when they will leave us stranded. Alittle preventive maintenance and taking care of a driveability issue as it occurs will proabably insure some
piece of mind. Remember don't drive angry
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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another great answer. you just broke the world record for the IQ chart.



you really just wouldn't shut the **** up huh. you're going in circles with your comments. school my ***?? i just proved you wrong and you keep running your mouth. do i have to quote you again on your own contradictions?? spare yourself from anymore humiliation.

i can take humor but when you point out w/ a guess that's entirely false and nearly make a comic out of it, it goes to show how much of a tard you are.

"I am guessing you are like every other day-to-day person and you sometimes maybe go to the grocery store, maybe go out to the movies or perhaps a bar to pick up chicks? or just to go to work."

for some reason known, i don't blame you having those types of comments; every teen goes through that 'yeah i think i know it all phase.' only you should keep these types of comments to yourself. you act as if you've been around and back. you need to humble yourself.

i'll say this one last time. if you want to argue, bring sensible answers to the table instead of "ridiculous" ones.

From the start all my "ridiculious" answers and comments were all not %100 serious. I tried to make this as laid back as I could. But you went and turned it into a quarrel, well to yourself. I honestly do not have any hurt feelings toward you about this, but you obviously do towards me now.

I never personally attacked you in any of my posts in here about this subject. But after everyone of my posts you came back and personally attacked me, whats wrong with this? Whats all the hard feelings toward investments, and a discussion about it. Did you have a stock broker beat you as a child ?
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