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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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GSL-SE is Effed?

Ok i spent a bunch of money getting a lot of little things fixed on my car and when I was driving it home from the shop under hard acceleration there was a loud pop which I initially thought was my exhaust blowing a gasket because it sounded like there was a hole in the exhaust and there was lots of backfiring and almost total loss of power.

The car was basically running at less than half power and I thought I might have blown the engine although it was not overheating and there was no visible smoke or leaking fluids. I managed to shamefully limp it home.

The car acts like it is starved for air (I think) and I found that one of the rubber lines from the charcoal cannister (?) (black cylinder thing w/ 2 hoses) Had blown off and I replaced it but the car is still effed. I think it might be something in the vaccuum system but I really have no clue. It has no power, will die at idle, sounds like it has an exhaust leak, and the drivetrain is vibrating too much. NO smoke or anything out the tailpipe and no leaks. Any ideas?
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 03:53 PM
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You lost a rotor.

Get a compression check.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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thats what I was afraid of
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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some thing exactly happened to me little over a week ago it sucked
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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That's the problem with GSL-SE engines. They run so well for so long that the apex seals wear far below spec. One day it runs fine and the next it breaks a seal.
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Been there, done that. A indication on a SE is when she starts running better than she ever has with tons of power. Then BOOM! :-)
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rx7doctor
Been there, done that. A indication on a SE is when she starts running better than she ever has with tons of power. Then BOOM! :-)


Funny, that's how mine went. Took it for a rip, and holy **** things worked great that time! Took a buddy out to show and "pop". **** that's an awful experience.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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Pull the trailing plugs and turn it over while listening to the puffs (ghetto compression check). Front rotor should pulse at the same rate as the rear rotor.

Verify that you still have your leading ignition too. Do this by checking for spark on the leading plugs. This also fits your description. Good luck!

P.S. I posted a link to a video in your other thread if you want to hear what a failing apex seal sounds like...
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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When you're ready for that rebuild, PM me.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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shhh stop talking about killing SE's mine just started running better after getting alot of work done on it. i traded a car for it it still has good compression tho lol dont scare me
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rx-7 obsessed
shhh stop talking about killing SE's mine just started running better after getting alot of work done on it. i traded a car for it it still has good compression tho lol dont scare me
Yeah no **** this scares me too, even though i still have less than 100,000 miles but still scares me!
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Hey, if you obsess over broken apex seals, sooner or later you'll experience it. How much is your peace of mind worth to you? What does a typical rebuild on a GSL-SE cost these days? I've never rebuilt one specifically for a GSL-SE car, so I don't know, but I have rebuilt 4 port 13Bs using GSL-SE rotating parts. It wasn't that much.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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i ve got an extra SE engine in my garage im about to tear down soon w/about 130,000 on it if the internals are good im going to turbo it, it shouldnt take much to rebuild if everything is in spec that is, im most likley going to use new factory seals on it.
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