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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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good lord!!!! (never seen one of these before)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2470390612
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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Must be bogus... he is asking $1000 just for shipping.

You could ship the whole car for less than that across the whole country.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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he has pics though. Either way that is one bad *** 1st gen!
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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True about the pics. I checked out his feedbacks and they're all from buying little ****. Check out the top one: Set of 4 Wiggles VHS video tapes
What the hell are wiggles? Apparently some sort of child's show from the description. And all but one of his things are from buying, so he really doesn't have any credit to him. Looks like he's going to scam someone.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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way too much for shipping. the guy is out of his damn mind. you could build it for less.....
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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thats funny I was just looking at that ad on ebay and drooling a lil bit
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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thats a wild *** setup do you think it is fast though?
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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It's inconceivable to think that thing isn't fast.

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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by nekky
It's inconceivable to think that thing isn't fast.

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its inconceivable to think any $20k mod isnt fast

for $20k I could make my car so fast I'd be........, well Im sure you all have day dreamed before
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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wow thats too much money. if i was gonna spend that much i could do alot more.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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like get a 3rd gen
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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That dudes on crack asking that much for a carbed turbo system!
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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The rear of that turbo looks far too tiny!
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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I suppose if he figures the thing is worth more than $15K (reserve not yet met), the insurance to ship the thing would be pretty hefty.... that's probably where the shipping costs come from...

I calculated shipping a 150lb, 15000 US Valued package from my house to my buddy's house a block away, with full insurance....

$537.00 canadian.... so like $50 US?

I would say his shipping quote is about right

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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 01:21 AM
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For that kind of money, I'd by this.


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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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For that kind of money, I'd by this.



sign me up on one of those
that's one cool engine bay!
I can't imagine paying over 15K for a carbed turbo setup. For that money, I could buy a 20B and all parts related, and have money left! Just a pitty I haven't got that money
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 02:31 AM
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I thought the C4 tranny was a piece of crap.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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WTF?

You could easily *build* that for a quarter of the price.

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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by luiml73
For that kind of money, I'd by this.


Now that would be worth $20 !!!!! If I'm not mistaken, that had what 600hp NA correct? I know i've seen the elusive 6 rotor, and they say it has more then 900hp NA.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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1000K for shipping is just about right. My bro is shipping a 1966 catalina (that's an 18' car) from IN to Wyoming for around 800 smackers.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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Yeah, but he's not shipping the whole car - just the turbo kit and tanny adapter kit.
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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oh, yea that's a rip-off
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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The Cartech turbo kits are rather famous. Mystical stories are told about them. I spoke with Corky Bell (owner of Cartech) after he had changed the name of his company to BEGI and moved to San Antonio. In his shop were a BMW 5-series with a turbo conversion and a Mustang or two and a monstrous '55 Caddy, with a 500 cube dual turbo motor, which Corky was building for a local customer to be the world's most powerful Cadillac. He spent a surprising amount of time with me talking about turbos and superchargers and his past racing experiences. Here's the Reader's Digest version of the Cartech Turbo story:

Corky developed a turbo setup for the RX-7, which was a red-hot seller in '79. He set it up so it would have some lag off idle, but wouldn't choke off too much at higher RPMs. At around 3K RPM and higher, with the turbo spooled up, throttle response was excellent. HP was also excellent, although he shied away from quoting numbers. A tuner magazine was interested in testing the car, so Corky gave it to them for a day. He didn't go with them, didn't ride along -- just gave them the keys. When they returned, he said they looked like they had seen a ghost. They immediately started asking him all sorts of questions about how much HP the car actually had and the kit's mechanical specifics. The reason -- as Corky was soon to find out -- was that his car was the fastest street car, bar none, that they had ever tested. They had timed the car in the quarter and from 0-60 and the times were so fast, they were afraid to print the real ones because they didn't think anybody would believe them -- so they said something along the lines of "0-60 times of less than 5 seconds can be repeatedly achieved", along with a bunch of glowing commentary.

Design Energy of "Mariah" fame used to sell the kits, or entire built-up engines. I remember their catalog from "back in the day" quoting 462HP!

I don't know if the kit's worth the money, but there's a dose of neo-classical hotrod history involved here that's worth something. To fully understand how important the Cartech kits were, you have to understand that a car that made 230HP in 1986 was considered extremely powerful, and here was a lightweight car with double that amount.
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