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Old 02-20-03, 01:50 PM
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Going to the dyno today, any guesses?

I am going to Stage 6 here in town today to get my car dyno'ed.

I am hoping for high 200's at the wheels, but we shall see.

I will post pics of the dyno and the slip tomorrow.
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Stock ports? What kind of exhaust? How much boost?
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I guess 101hp.
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Im with ya on at least 200. Its a Cartech turbo kit right? Arent those rated at almost 300?

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A T76 on possibly a 12A??!??!? Good Lord!
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i'd bet you're over 300....I have a Cartech kit on my 13B and Corky Bell himself rated my setup at over 350HP.
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I would say not more than 200 rwhp, its measurement that matters not rating. What is in the Cartech kit?
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just for fun i'll guess...i say 284 hp and 208 torque
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Did you forget to go to the dyno?

where's the numbers?
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Okay boys and girls, can you say "My car is slow"?

186@7000rpms 8lbs.

Don't laugh too hard, you might burst a vein.

I was very surprised and very embarassed.

I was lean (13) at low rpms and okay (11) at high rpms.

I am thinking about turning up the boost to about 12-14lbs, rejetting the carb, changing the plugs and trying it again next week.

I was in such shock, I left without paying. I will be going back today to make payment for making an *** of myself.
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What type of porting job do you have?

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186 hp is nothing to sneeze at in a 2500 pound car. You car is probably quite fast indeed.
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Coming from someone who admittedly knows relatively little about turbocharging, your dyno #'s aren't far off from what I expected. On a stock port I'm not surprised with those #'s at all. That said, 186rwhp is probably ~twice what your car had pre-turbo at the wheels. I don't think you did bad at all, certainly nothing to be embarassed over. Cheer up
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Thanks for the post man, I was just hoping for better numbers.

If anything, I am determined to get into the high 200's and I am going to work on it starting today.
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I know the turbo has tremendous potential, but I just installed the air/ fuel meter the night before and really have not tuned the carb perfectly.

The guy down there (Tracy), gave me some advice on jetting, so I will follow that and crank the boost, probably to 14 lbs.

Does anyone know what the max boost on a T76 is?
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i wish my car made 186 to the wheels. That's pretty damn good for stock porting and a blow-through system. (Not that i really know much about the stuff) but after tunning properly i wouldnt be suprised if you hit the 200 mark. Not bad for a "bolt-on" job.
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If you get that thing street ported and tuned right those HP figures will be close to double your previous amount...believe me I know. Good luck man, don't be so hard on yourself.
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I just installed an MBC, how does this thing work?

Is all the way in full boost or all the way out?
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I think putting more stress on your motor by turning up the boost will hurt in more in the long run with those stock exhaust ports. I don't want to see another first gen on the side of the road. If you want to see a great increase in power with your current setup...get it ported. Even a mild street port will be better then forcing those small exhaust ports to do more work.

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The guy I bought the car from said that the motor is ported, and it lops on startup, but I looked at the intake ports and they looked stock.

I am guessing that this guy would have at least the exhaust ports ported running a turbo.
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Phew *wipes sweat off of forehead* I feel much better.

I really don't worry much about the intake ports as much as I do the exhaust ports.

I'm wondering are you getting an turbo lag and how is your clutch doing? (I didn't read through all the replies so I apologize for coming into this discussion a little late.)

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There is some lag, but this is my first turbo car, so I have nothing to compare it to.

Dual friction clutch is holding up well, it was basically new when I bought the car.

Traction is a problem though, keep spinning the tires.
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****, I would be happy if I could hit that number with my Weber blow through Im planning at 8 PSI.

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186rwhp at 8lbs boost is reasonable with a stockport. Pushing up the boost further without dowelling may not be a good idea. You will also be getting to the stage where driveshaft, diff and clutch modifications should be considered. Without a good intercooler I suggest 9-10 ib should be your max boost with another 2 with a frontmounted IC. In an early response I suggested 200 hp max for your set-up, with a little fine tuning this should be possible.

OK porting will give you more power, but a strip down and port job is an expensive option at this stage


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