1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Gas tank drain to be used as a pick up for efi?

Old Oct 2, 2007 | 08:49 PM
  #1  
13BTOY's Avatar
Thread Starter
Boosted Fb
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,471
Likes: 0
From: Lost!
Gas tank drain to be used as a pick up for efi?

Has anyone used the gas tank drain as a pick up for efi? I just checked and my 85 has a drain plug. I was thinking of putting a fitting in place of the plug to run it straight to my efi pump(sort of like a sump). Any idea what the thread pitch is?

Thanks, Ed
Reply
Old Oct 2, 2007 | 10:30 PM
  #2  
cjrx7's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
From: st.paul mn
You got a turbo in the plans? If so,Hell No,you need a real sump or the fc in-tank pump.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:16 PM
  #3  
aussiesmg's Avatar
Thunder from downunder
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,843
Likes: 1
From: Convoy, Ohio, USA
I purchased the through tank fittings from Summit, they will work on a regular tank as well as the fuel cell, then used AN fittings from there, note I picked up some fuel resistant silicone to ensure no leaks and make sure the spacers are thick enough. The lower rear edge of the tank is angled at 45 degrees which is a good location to ensure the ends are clear of the road debris.

As for a fuel pump my Aeromotive EFI pump is outside the tank nd supports up to 1000 hp
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2007 | 08:47 PM
  #4  
Directfreak's Avatar
I am a Jeeper Now.
Tenured Member 20 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 4
From: 3OH5
Or use a GSL-SE Fuel Tank and Fuel Pickup, and keep it all stealth.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2007 | 09:12 PM
  #5  
13BTOY's Avatar
Thread Starter
Boosted Fb
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,471
Likes: 0
From: Lost!
I'm already using a surge tank set up with my turbo since I could not source an SE tank up here. This was just an idea coz I'm kind of being lazy about doing the FC pump mod.
Aussiemg, I'm curious to see those fittings that youre refering too.

Thanks, Ed
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2007 | 10:42 PM
  #6  
81gsl12a's Avatar
blown up motors
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,325
Likes: 1
From: morganton, NC
just spend the 80 bucks and get a rear sump



https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/my-new-fule-system-pics-take-notes-lol-666589/

^^^^^^^ link of moe pics^^^^^^^

cheers PaTricK
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2007 | 11:21 PM
  #7  
trochoid's Avatar
Old Fart Young at Heart
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,145
Likes: 8
From: St Joe MO
Drain plug is a very bad choice for locating a pickup point. I've been modding tanks for the FC intank pump and sump cup. Just sent 2 off to Canada this morning. The mod isn't cheap, but it's the best way to go for turbo or efi applications. Tanks are fully refurbished inside and out. It's not a cheap mod, but well worth it for protecting your engine.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2007 | 02:29 AM
  #8  
Jeff20B's Avatar
Lapping = Fapping
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 15,725
Likes: 91
From: Near Seattle
I have a rusty GSL-SE tank and a good '83 tank. I'm thinking maybe I could remove the sump cup from the -SE tank and somehow put it in the '83 tank. Is that a good idea? Or should I refurbish the GSL-SE tank and sell the '83 tank to cover the cost?
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2007 | 04:05 AM
  #9  
trochoid's Avatar
Old Fart Young at Heart
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,145
Likes: 8
From: St Joe MO
Depends on what model year 7 you plan on installing the tank. Iirc, they are not interchangeable beyween series. Mostly due to the configuration of the spare tire well. Depending on how bad the rust is, a tank can be cleaned and a liner coating applied to stop the rust.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2007 | 06:22 AM
  #10  
rotary emotions's Avatar
HEAVY METAL THUNDER
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,864
Likes: 0
From: Elsenborn, Belgian Eifel
I used a surge tank from tweakit (australia, I'm sure something simular can be found in the US). It's fed by a Holley (or will be, car's in bits and pieces now ) and then feeds a SX performance "out of tank" pump. Easier than modding a tank.
The SX pump (or the large Aeromotive) is a bit overkill for street cars, I just bought it to be safe for later
If you're going EFI (but no turbo) with more normal power levels (let's say a S4/5 EFI engine) the setup can be rather cheap: a good pick up pump (even a stock SA pump will work, as it only needs to fill the surge tank, and doesn't need to build up pressure, but I wouldn't advise that) and surge tank won't cost you very much, and the EFI pump is needed with either of the setups.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2007 | 06:25 AM
  #11  
rotary emotions's Avatar
HEAVY METAL THUNDER
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,864
Likes: 0
From: Elsenborn, Belgian Eifel
Originally Posted by trochoid
Depends on what model year 7 you plan on installing the tank. Iirc, they are not interchangeable beyween series. Mostly due to the configuration of the spare tire well. Depending on how bad the rust is, a tank can be cleaned and a liner coating applied to stop the rust.
S1 and S2 are the same shape, S3 has a different spare weel well. But depending on who I can believe you can use it too. Anyway, we did test fit my '84 tank under my fathers '80 SA and it did fit.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2007 | 12:52 PM
  #12  
Jeff20B's Avatar
Lapping = Fapping
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 15,725
Likes: 91
From: Near Seattle
Originally Posted by trochoid
Depends on what model year 7 you plan on installing the tank. Iirc, they are not interchangeable beyween series. Mostly due to the configuration of the spare tire well. Depending on how bad the rust is, a tank can be cleaned and a liner coating applied to stop the rust.
In the '83. Both tanks should fit in both cars as both are series 3.

The GSL-SE tank is already out and sitting on a shelf. The '83 tank will be removed when there's nice weather. I'll take off the send/return fittings of both and have a look inside. If the GSL-SE tank is salvageable, I'll just use it and sell the '83 tank. Otherwise I'll have to remove the sump cup or make a new one and install it in the '83 tank, and use the GSL-SE send/return fittings.
Reply
Old Oct 6, 2007 | 01:07 PM
  #13  
kleinke's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 359
Likes: 0
From: Yumpenoffenhoff
IIRC the European S2 had a deeper spare tire Well, to accomodate a full-size Tire flush with the rear deck. The North American S2 had shallow well for the small spacesaver tire. The gas tank from a full size Well should fit in any S3, but not vice versa. This information is my recollection, but if I am mistaken please correct.

Rotaryemotions, what size are the sparewheel Well of your S1, S2, S3 and in what country were they originally sold?
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Rotospectre
New Member RX-7 Technical
3
Mar 28, 2018 03:33 PM
mazdaverx713b
Build Threads
48
Apr 21, 2016 06:45 AM
Alan777
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
1
Aug 13, 2015 02:47 AM
baconflavored
SE RX-7 Forum
0
Aug 12, 2015 12:07 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:58 PM.