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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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Lightbulb explain the igntion wires....

on the racing beat site i saw the wiring they sell but having some stupid quistions.....lol do these just fit right up as stock simple switch??and my biggest one what the hell is the site talking about when it is talking about curbing radio inferances??? which ones would i want the more or less expensize ones??
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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oh and what type of spark plug
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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ignition wires (and other components) can interfere with the radio signal, thus making it impossible to recieve the radio signals properly. This goes for RC cars and planes aswell, just as many other electronic devices. For "normal" use these things have to comply with rules, so that's why you can still watch TV even if the microwave is on.
For racing purposes this is less important, and performance will be more important.
Now, I do not know whih set you'd best buy, but if any doubts are there, you might get the streetable set: they'll be ok for sure. I guess RB would be able to tell you more aswell.
And yes, as far as I know they'll be a straight replacement.
As for plugs: this depends on what setup you are running, aswell as the general climate in your area (if you're around the northpole-circle you'll need a different setup then when you're in Africa). If in any doubt, and you're setup is otherwise stock: go for what Mazda recommends. Should you be autocrossing or racing the car, you'll need plugs that are up to that task.
The RB catalog has recommendations about spark plugs, so check there.
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 04:23 AM
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oh thanks i left my racing beat catalog at my friends i will get it tomorrow to read what your talking about
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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The Racing Red Hot wires fit the coils, cap and rotor perfectly. Maybe even a little better than stock. Their quality is evident if you take a little time to check out the materials and such that go into their construction.

Oh uh I just installed DLIDFIS with a set of those wires on a firned's supercharged 13B in a REPU the other day.

Rusty, RFI is the acronym you're looking for. It stands for radio frequency interference. It can cause visual and audible clicks and pops in TV reception and ticking type noises sometimes in radio reception. The metal sleeves shown in the Racing Beat catalogue may no longer be available. They're supposed to help reduce RFI even more.
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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i dont even have a radio in my car just a cd player so if they still have them should i get the ones without the sheilds since they make 6000ohm and have the least amout of messin the radio up
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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I should have said spark plugs instead of rotor in my previous post.

Yeah, just get the ones without the metal covers. Give RB a call before ordering to get the latest info on them. If I remember the phone number correctly, it's 714-779-8677 (it's scary that I can actually remember the tones).
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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u must have had a long list when ordering so its a remberable moment...haha i know my last order was short but expensive
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Speaking of tones, has anyone here ever had one of those pocket phone dialers? Well I never had one, but you can mimic the effect.

You rotorheads should have Racing Beat's phone number already saved on your speed dial, or at least have it memorized by now. If not, here is a handly little peice of audio I just whipped up. Just unzip and play in your favorite audio program. By the way, yes you can hold your phone's mic up to your PC speaker, hit play, and it will dial Racing Beat for you. Enjoy!
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford
u must have had a long list when ordering so its a remberable moment...haha i know my last order was short but expensive
Naw, I've just known the number for years. It takes a couple seconds for me to remember it. I don't know Mazdatrix' number though since they change it from time to time.
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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Speaking of tones, has anyone here ever had one of those pocket phone dialers? Well I never had one, but you can mimic the effect.
Used to have one, modified it though...

Dismantle the Radio Shack one and replace the stock crystal with a 6.58 or so MHz one and you have what's known as a "Red Box"...

I forget which key made the right tone, but stored in the speed dial once for a nickel, twice for a dime, and 5 times for a quarter, you could make free phone calls at payphones...

Doesn't work any more, now that everything's digital in the DC area... Might work out in the boonies though...
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Jeff, check your PM's!
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Ah, I have heard of trunked (or whatever it is), red boxes and blue boxes. By the way, did the blotto box ever produce any results?

Do you happen to know the tone frequncies of the red box? I think I can mimic them with Cool Edit. It has extra buttons ABC and D. My Radio Shack HTX202 also has these extra buttons. They produce similar, but different tones compared to the standard DTMF buttons found on like 99% of all phones these days. I wonder what they're used for? Cool Edit also has the option to produce CCITT R1 MF signals (they sound kinda like that funky calculator on the movie Short Circuit 2).

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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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Ah, I have heard of trunked (or whatever it is), red boxes and blue boxes. By the way, did the blotto box ever produce any results?

Do you happen to know the tone frequncies of the red box? I think I can mimic them with Cool Edit. It has extra buttons ABC and D. My Radio Shack HTX202 also has these extra buttons. They produce similar, but different tones compared to the standard DTMF buttons found on like 99% of all phones these days. I wonder what they're used for? Cool Edit also has the option to produce CCITT R1 MF signals (they sound kinda like that funky calculator on the movie Short Circuit 2).
Nickel:
35-160ms 1700hz & 2200hz tone burst, followed by 240ms of silence.



Dime:
Two 35-160ms 1700hz & 2200hz bursts, with a spacing of 20-110ms between the bursts, followed by 165 ms of silence.



Quarter:
Five 1700hz & 2200hz bursts, with the first and last being 20-100ms in length, and the second through fourth being 20-60ms in length. The spacing between the first and second bursts is 20-110ms, while the spacing between the following bursts is 20-60ms. The tones are followed by 60ms of silence.

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/docs/Ha.../red-box.shtml
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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I think I could probably make some red box tones with that info.

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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff20B
I think I could probably make some red box tones with that info.
Dunno why you would... It's fairly useless now that everything's digital... Was popular back in the mid 90's...
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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I haven't used a payphone since oh, probably the mid '90s.
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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Yeah, like in Hackers .

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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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Yeah, like in Hackers .

~T.J.
Some of it was accurate... It did work at one point.

Also, Emmanuel Goldstien is a handle of the editor for a magazine called "2600: The Hacker Quarterly"... His real name, I believe is Eric Corley... I believe he provided some minor consulting for the movie...
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