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Hades12 10-20-04 04:41 PM

Sounds like it is now her car and you owe nothing. Do you have a bill of sale with her signiture on it?

QuagmireMan 10-20-04 04:50 PM

yes i do

DBOGGSRX7 10-20-04 04:54 PM

Your description of the car was accurate. Buyers remorse. Tell her you would be more than happy to give all her money back in return for the car.

lovintha7 10-20-04 04:57 PM

Her tough luck. She's already started fixing it. And I woulda paid you around $1500-$1800 for the car. I paid $1500 for my 81 with 100k miles on it, and a dowell pin leak. Tell her tough shit.

Hades12 10-20-04 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by QuagmireMan
yes i do

You should be Golden then. The car would not fall under any Lemon laws that I know of, and she signed a bill of sale that says where is, as is.

Just be kind and let her know that you do not owe her anything. If that does not work then "Piss off" and the finger should do it.

QuagmireMan 10-20-04 05:04 PM

i think thats what im going to have to do.

John64 10-20-04 06:13 PM

She must have know that she was going to put money into it if she was buying from Ebay! Its hers, don't go to the dark side and give any money back.

Myc1972 10-20-04 06:44 PM

I agree. You don't owe her anything.

QuagmireMan 10-20-04 09:10 PM

i caved, my parents are telling me to give her the 300 just to get her to put this behind her... plus i dont want to feel like i scammed her, even though i feel scammed myself.. i let you know how this turns out after i hear from her.... and i will post her emails.

RotaryRyan 10-20-04 10:39 PM

I wouldnt give her anything........ :cursing:

QuagmireMan 10-20-04 11:04 PM

like i said i caved... unless anyone from tennesse wants to go "talk her out of it" for me ;)

chachee 10-20-04 11:26 PM

DON'T CAVE!!! You said everything you needed to in the discription! She got exactly what you said she would get. If she didn't want the car she wouldn't have given you the money. You said that the clutch had started to act funny in the discription of the car... end of it. Hold on to your lugnuts!!!

mar3 10-20-04 11:28 PM

$300 is way too much....tell her she gets $150 for a new clutch and that's it. Being on eBay, she should realize she'll have change left over even using the "Buy It Now" button out there...if she has the rolling car and the drivetrain after all is said and done, $500 purchase price is flat out ripping YOU off.....:mad:

QuagmireMan 10-21-04 06:53 AM

:(

John64 10-21-04 06:59 AM

Why not give her all her money back and let her keep the car. Come on you made her drive it 800 miles, that such an inconvience. Your so mean to make her drive 800 miles to pick up the car SHE bought that is 20 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your parents have a problem with binding contracts!

ch0g0nda 10-21-04 07:20 AM

She paid for something after seeing a bunch of pics then got cold feet because it wasn't a picture perfect example of a prime RX-7 for $800... Tell her tuff luck.

kenn_chan 10-21-04 07:33 AM

shit buy it back and I will buy it.
 
Buy the damn thing back! I will be back in Indiana in 2 weeks or so, and I will buy the damn think for 800.00 sight unseen, I don't even care if the thing runs as rebuilding an FB is kinda like jerking off, and I often do it in my sleep! (plus I want a US model FB) over hear all I can get is a JDM SA22C )

Kenn_chan

kenn_chan 10-21-04 07:36 AM

PM Me
 
PM Me swear to god if she don't want it i will come over and get it, Hell i will pay an extra 300 for the Parts she put on it!

Keriissst almighty!

Rotor13B 10-21-04 07:43 AM

Yep, don't give her anything, ebay rules stipulate that by submitting a bid and winning an auction you are in a legal binding agreement. Tell her this is a business not a charity, If she didn't want to pay that much she shouldn't have bid.

P.S. Tell your parents to grow a set. :)

rx-7girl 10-21-04 07:48 AM

Wow, that is the suckiest saddest thing I have ever read. I have had the chance to buy many many first gens. Not that this is making me the first gen expert or anything, but I wouldnt give that lady anything. Nothing. In fact I would probably bitch her out every time I saw her or talked to her. Shes being really snobby about this and kinda acting like a typical whiny female, you owe her nothing and it sucks that you gave into her whinyness. If you want I'll talk to her and straighten her out........

QuagmireMan 10-21-04 11:49 AM

this is what she said

I understand that the drive train is worth 600.00 but I did not buy the car for the drive train (honestly the gas gauge is the least of my worries) In the ebay the pictures of the front fenders were at a dissence as to not show the weak parts of the car and kept anyone from seeing the rust on the bottom of the doors . Now way you can see the rust under door the time of day the picture were taken.. should have been a clue. ....it cost me 800.00 to pick up the car from the garage...and it is still a rust bucket... I came home dragging the shielding from the muffler. This does include the cost of picking the car up....)......I have other cars that need to be restored but this car...we are talking complete rust under the car with holes and all of the shielding for the exhaust has fallen off. I never expect to have to take a cutting torch to the car to restore it. I guess I should have never paid for it until I put it on a rack (I EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE HONEST) Mark, I am not a perfect person but I like to think I have Integrity... The guy at the garage said sell it to someone else. I just can not do this to some else. I would be happy with 300.00....but you must understand (I thought this would be a dream car...62k miles...that would make you think it had been garage kept..not a RUST Bucket .) This is a nightmare to me....
Thanks
Robin

QuagmireMan 10-21-04 11:52 AM

this is what she first said.... i dont know where she gets that it is a 100 mile trip to tenn.???

I am thinking about contacting Ebay. This car is falling apart....All of the shielding from the exhaust has fallen off on the way home a 100miles trip. There is a whole under the rear fender. Between the fender and the door. Both doors have rust at the bottom edge..I do no how you feel about this...I do not think you were complete honest.....I am very disappoint. I would like some of my money back.

QuagmireMan 10-21-04 11:53 AM

originally she said

Chris,

You have nothing to be sorry youwere...... honest about everything....The car is 20 years old....things happen...
You were very honest about everything....and that is what is important....I am not upset...I very happy with the car....thank you again....

QuagmireMan 10-21-04 11:54 AM

this is what my dad said last night


Robin,

I’m really sorry about this whole deal and I do feel bad that you had to put $800.00 in the car immediately. I do understand how you are feeling, but once again, we did not try to deceive you.

I looked for six months before I purchased this car as a gift to my son and paid $1,000.00 for it in September 2003. I planned on working with Chris to restore it. Due to Chris’ work and school schedule, we were not able to do anything with the car. So, that is why we decided to sell it. I still believe the car is worth restoring.

We are willing to send you $300.00 to put closure to this situation. Again, we do not feel the price was unfair but we learned a lesson on selling a car on e-bay. We will stick to the old fashion way – have a person come out and look at the car and then make a deal.

Robin, sending you the $300.00 is not admitting wrong but that I am willing to lose money because of this situation.

Let me know how you want to handle this money transaction (whether by pay-pal or bank check).

Thanks,

Mark

QuagmireMan 10-21-04 11:56 AM

this is what we said before.... sorry about the reverse order....


I’m sorry you are now disappointed with your purchase after driving the RX-7 800 miles home. I tried to state the condition of the car as well as I could, down to the gas gauge that did not work.

I also tried to clearly communicate that the car would need to be restored and provided lots of pictures.

Regarding your concern with rust, 20- year old Ohio cars typically have rust on all body parts that are not painted. In Ohio, the road crews use lots of salt in the winter, so it can’t be avoided, like in the southern states.

However, I would like you to feel you got an ok deal if possible, so what do you recommend regarding adjusting the price? The drive train alone is worth at least $600.00 with only 62,000 original miles.

Please let me know what you would be satisfied with and hopefully we can work it out.

We did not intentionally try to mislead you in any way.

Thank you,

Mark Seeley (Chris’ dad)


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