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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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drift+gravel=f-ed control arm.

i was attempting to slide a corner one night, and there was some gravel on the ground that i did not see. and i understeered into the curb. no curb rash on the wheels (i had the stock wheels on) but man, my control arm got f-ed. and now, my wheels seems to sit back in the wheel well a little bit. any way...check the pic.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 12:54 AM
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You'll get no sympathy here.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 01:36 AM
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 02:53 AM
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im not looking for sympathy....the problem was fixed, i just thought id share.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 82tougemonster
i was attempting to slide a corner one night, and there was some gravel on the ground that i did not see. and i understeered into the curb. no curb rash on the wheels (i had the stock wheels on) but man, my control arm got f-ed. and now, my wheels seems to sit back in the wheel well a little bit. any way...check the pic.

???

You're supposed to drift with your brakes, not the steering wheel.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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I don't see why we need to give him a hard time, everyone f ups at some point I ve had my share of screwups messing around. I think its great that people drive their cars hard and push them to their limits, wrecking is racing.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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I don't see why we need to give him a hard time, everyone f ups at some point I ve had my share of screwups messing around. I think its great that people drive their cars hard and push them to their limits, wrecking is racing.
Yeah at the track, Doing it on public roads is stupid, This is his reminder.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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I don't advocate driving crazy on public roads during high traffic hours, but then again I'm not rich enough to pay $100 for an hour or two of track time after an hour and a half drive to get to the track. Legal practice is way too expensive here and there's no legal place to drift near me. Sounds like he was driving during a low traffic period so the only harm he could cause is to himself, which is his choice. There are consequences and for the truly dumb people that do this **** I have no sympathy, but I don't think he's one of them. I'd say it was a good learning experience. I've ended up in a ditch twice due to over compensation during a slide. Only one was intentional. Gravel under the rear wheels of a gutted 1st gen can get you sideways without trying. What you need to do is become friends with somebody who has a private parking lot. Then you can practice there without trouble form the police as long as the owner is with you. Hell, cops might even sit and watch if you get good. I used to know a guy who used his friend's fenced in parking lot and a cop would sit outside and watch. Just be safe about it.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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I agree. I mean some of us just dont have the money or the places to do this stuff. SO everyone of you can sit here and tell me that you have never done anything stupid on the public roads in any car. I Know ive overcorrected and taken out my neighbors mailbox. We should just be thankful that he or his car were not hurt real bad.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Yeah at the track, Doing it on public roads is stupid, This is his reminder.
i agree...but in great falls montana, there isnt a race track. we have made up a few in parking lots and what not, but no actual tracks. when i did mess this up, it was around 10:30 pm, on the edge of town, there wasnt any traffic except for my pal right behind me who did the same thing, but didnt hit the curb becuase he was behind me. and i did use the brakes, it would have been a good drift, but when my front wheels hit the gravel i understeered like a *****, and i was going to fast to do anything but take what the curb, well median actually, would give me. And it was a learning experience for sure.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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You assclowns make it sound like you DESERVE to drive like morons because you don't have access to a racetrack, or because you can't afford it. Truth is, you endanger other people, damage property that you don't own, and risk your own safety just because you are immature, poor-decision making punks and you feel like it. If you don't want others to make negative comments about what you do, stop informing everyone what an attention hungry a-hole you are. Driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a right, and it sounds like it probably isn't a privilige that you are mature enough to participate in yet. If you are simply interested in putting yur own life in jeopardy, there are much more efficient ways to do so while not risking the safety of others. Eat some rat poison or drink some bleach and see if you die - that way your selfish need for childish thrills won't endanger anyone but you.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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You assclowns make it sound like you DESERVE to drive like morons because you don't have access to a racetrack, or because you can't afford it. Truth is, you endanger other people, damage property that you don't own, and risk your own safety just because you are immature, poor-decision making punks and you feel like it. If you don't want others to make negative comments about what you do, stop informing everyone what an attention hungry a-hole you are. Driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a right, and it sounds like it probably isn't a privilige that you are mature enough to participate in yet. If you are simply interested in putting yur own life in jeopardy, there are much more efficient ways to do so while not risking the safety of others. Eat some rat poison or drink some bleach and see if you die - that way your selfish need for childish thrills won't endanger anyone but you.
And that right there shows just how immature you are. I guess the drift king himself is the head "assclown" then for practicing on public streets. How about you look at the issue from more than one direction before speaking. It's just plain rude.

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:24 AM
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"And that right there shows just how immature you are.."

Says the braniac who thinks the police might be interested in watching dumb-*** kids drive like ..... dumb *** kids. Newsflash: that's what ticket books are for. What you are doing only makes you cool in the eyes of OTHER dumb-*** kids. What you call "a good learning experience" is called by the general public "a lack of ability to control an automobile". Any more than VERY occasional instances of this can legally qualify you for a bus pass. That way someone with proven abilities to safely control a vehicle can convey you back and forth from your mommy and daddy's house to the video game store, or even your minimum wage job without endangering everyone else on the road.

Don't worry. It might take a while in your case, but with any luck you will live long enough to outgrow your desperate need to impress your juvenile peer group and get on with doing something worthwhile with your life. Or maybe not.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Boswoj
"And that right there shows just how immature you are.."

Says the braniac who thinks the police might be interested in watching dumb-*** kids drive like ..... dumb *** kids. Newsflash: that's what ticket books are for. What you are doing only makes you cool in the eyes of OTHER dumb-*** kids. What you call "a good learning experience" is called by the general public "a lack of ability to control an automobile". Any more than VERY occasional instances of this can legally qualify you for a bus pass. That way someone with proven abilities to safely control a vehicle can convey you back and forth from your mommy and daddy's house to the video game store, or even your minimum wage job without endangering everyone else on the road.

Don't worry. It might take a while in your case, but with any luck you will live long enough to outgrow your desperate need to impress your juvenile peer group and get on with doing something worthwhile with your life. Or maybe not.
So are you saying you dont see drifting as a compatition at all? or just what these "dumb *** kids" call drifting?
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 02:14 AM
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I guess somebody here can't read. It was a private parking lot, liek those that are used for SCCA competitions. And it was fenced so nobody could get hurt unless they were inside... and I'm guessing they wanted to be inside. Kids these days just don't know how to listen and behave.

Kinda odd how I got grouped with the "assclowns" when I don't do any crazy driving. Drive to work, drive back home. Damn I'm a crazy, no respect guy.

I guess I shouldn't be concerned though. You are just a nub after all.

Can a mod plz look over Boswoj's posts and determine if he's a contributer to this forum? I see alot of insults in his posts and not alot of reliable info.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Mommy - tell that man to stop being mean to me! Waaahhh!

HA HA HA HA !

No - I personally do not consider "drifting" a sport. The things that I recognize as real "sport" are NOT judged subjectively. There are clear cut winners without the inclusion of "style points". It is entertainment, or an activity - but definitely not a sport. That's my personal opinion - yours might be different. I regularly drive a race car at sanctioned competition events. I drive a variety of cars at safe, controlled, and sanctioned track days to maintain and improve my skills. I instruct drivers at race schools and high performance driver education track days. How a person enjoys motorsports is up to them, within certain acceptable limits of course. Organized, controlled, closed course drifting and car control education events look entertaining and fun. They even help build driver ability and experience in controlling a car at it's limits. What the average rebellious young punk is doing, on the other hand, is better described as bad, dangerous, unskilled driving on public roads. Like most inexperienced youth, you don't like people that have already earned some experience and insight to tell you what you should do. You are sure that you already know everything that is important, and prefer to make every mistake that you can yourself. Don't worry - a few years down the road you will get tired of fighting everyone only to find out they are usually right, and you will grow up yourself. Perhaps you will be more tolerant of the next generation of "know-everything" punks than I am - more power to you. I live at the edge of a fairly major metropolis that is FULL of wannabe drifter and street-racer idiots who maim and kill themselves and innocent bystanders on a regular basis, while bringing safe traffic to a standstill. Backtracking so you can claim that you are a safe and conservative guy who only practices on a closed parking lot with the owners permission is great. Hey, form a club - get a parking lot that can be closed, secured and safe, and get your friends out to enjoy your cars to your hearts content. No complaints - I would probably attend myself! Definitely stop encouraging others to break the law and risk lives by public "drifting" in "low traffic" situations justified by the expense or lack of a legal venue. Doing that completely invalidates all the other crap that you are doing to make yourself appear responsible.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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Boswoj just for your own personal info I am a 19 years old punk kid who like to drift and have fun with my automobile when the time is right, I play video games for a living and get paid damm well to do so, I get to live for free with my parents so your little jab (I would take that as a compliment) at young people who love video games and live with there parents doesn't bother me because I know I have it damm good right now. I will get as reckless as i want if there aren't other people on the road, I do have the money to go to a track and get professional instructions in a closed enviorment, but I don't have any time so I practice whenever I can.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Lol, I live at home too, but I have to pay rent. Cheap rent at that, and I know I have it good and I'll milk it for what it's worth. I figure me only paying $250 a month for car insurance and rent is a hell of a lot better than living on my own spending $600 a month on rent alone.

I'm sure when you were younger Boswoj that you never broke the rules of the road. Which I find the almost impossible to believe. Everyone was 16 - 20 once, and in those 4 years we ALL drove like little ***** who thought we had to go fast to look cool and test the limits of our cars, and if you didn't...then you must not have ever had fun. Driving professionally on a track may be interesting, but if you mess around on a vacant street at night, there's that thought in the back of your head that makes it a hell of a lot more interesting than a track, "What if I get caught?" That makes things a hell of a lot more fun because of the risk of being caught.

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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Reckless driving on the street is not needed. Traffic laws should be more strict just for this reason, immediate license suspension should be awarded if one puts peoples lives at risk in front of a law officer. I've driven reckless in the past but NEVER when there were any cars around.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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wow....it looks just like mine. I did it to one car 2 times on the passenger side and once to thedriverside.
The first time was because someone cut me off and I ate the curb. Second time was in the rain on bad tires( F'ed up my Enkie that time)
3rd time was just be drifting to hard on a nice left turn, everything was going good for about 20 feet into the slide when the front cought to much traction and I spun counter clockwise into the curb.
Each time was as exciting as the last....HahaAahaha
But yeah...
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Yep I have learned a lot about driving in the rain, spun my seven many times most of which were unexpected and not provoked, also wrecked my companys van in the rain but all that has forced me to drive way more cautious. Words of advice to any newb with a rear drive car don't ever get cocky about driving when its raining leave that for when it is dry out.
I don't ever do anything too stupid with other cars around no need to involve or risk anyone elses well being in my own poor decision making.
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