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does vin tell you gs/gsl?

Old Dec 30, 2013 | 02:27 AM
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does vin tell you gs/gsl?

just wondering, was never told if my car was an original gs or gsl car wheni bought it, and one day i had it on jackstands and the ebrake was up and i noticed that one wheel was spinning, so the ebrake either is broken on one side or is the incorrect cable for the rear end... its drum brakes which i know was a gs thing, but something tells me the car was originally a gsl, and someone put a gs rear in it. it has a sunroof so i know its at least a gs, but it just bugs me not knowing lol

any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 07:56 AM
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VIN will only tell you what engine was in it. S/GS/GSL was an option package not a vehicle.

Why does it bug you? A car is what it is, not what it used to be.
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 08:13 AM
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Does it have power windows?
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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as the others have said the vin won't tell you anything except the engine.

however there are a few things that are unique to the GSL, so its pretty easy to tell a GSL from an S/GS. its harder to tell an S/GS apart

the GSL always has a sunroof. the GS usually does, S doesn't. the GSL has a rear wiper, which is easy to install remove, but the rear WASHER nozzle is installed in the roof, so there are two holes for it, the lower models will not have this.

the GSL has power windows, the S/GS are manual.

GSL has power mirrors and cruise control, the GS has the mirrors and i think cruise is an option, the S will have neither

along with the power windows the GSL has different seats and door panels. leather is an option on the GSL and its not on the other trim levels

the GSL also always has a/c, in 84-85 the logicon will be the power one, and power steering is optional. most S and GS's have ac, but they won't have the other stuff.

the S and GS are a little harder to tell apart, the S has manual mirrors, its missing the map lights, and trunk light, so its really small stuff
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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PA Gsl a/c

Originally Posted by j9fd3s
as the others have said the vin won't tell you anything except the engine.

however there are a few things that are unique to the GSL, so its pretty easy to tell a GSL from an S/GS. its harder to tell an S/GS apart....


the GSL also always has a/c, in 84-85 the logicon will be the power one, and power steering is optional. most S and GS's have ac, but they won't have the other stuff.
I bought my 84 GSL new without A/C. I had it installed several months later. The power logicon was there however.
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I bought my 84 GSL new without A/C. I had it installed several months later. The power logicon was there however.
It must have been a special order without AC. All the GSL and GSL-SE's that had AC where factory installed. All models below GSL got dealer installed AC which was not the Nippondenso (as I understand it).
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Old Dec 30, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iowa_hawk1
I bought my 84 GSL new without A/C. I had it installed several months later. The power logicon was there however.
weird, its not supposed to be that way.

Originally Posted by KansasCityREPU
It must have been a special order without AC. All the GSL and GSL-SE's that had AC where factory installed. All models below GSL got dealer installed AC which was not the Nippondenso (as I understand it).
all of the GSL-SE's have the ND system, the GSL's have the ND system when they have power steering, but without PS the GSL's usually (90%), have the port installed sanden system.

i think there was an additional tax on AC systems so Mazdas in the US usually have a system that is installed at the port of entry, even well into the 90's.

the other thing is that Mazda US was either 5 separate companies, or had just merged from 5 different companies, so there are a lot of weird regional differences.
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 01:46 AM
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ok, so from what i gather, mine is a gs. it does have power mirrors, no power windows, it does have a sunroof. and its an '82, so none of that other stuff seems to apply to mine lol
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Old Dec 31, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bikeordie092
ok, so from what i gather, mine is a gs. it does have power mirrors, no power windows, it does have a sunroof. and its an '82, so none of that other stuff seems to apply to mine lol
yeah the GS is power mirrors, manual windows, its got all the trunk and map lights. sunroof is standard in some years and optional in others, out here about 90% of them have it. AC i think is still an option, but about 90% of the cars seem to have it, in 82 its a port installed system.

i had a bugger of a time trying to figure out if my 82 was an S or a GS, i think i settled on an S as it appears to never have had AC
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Old Jan 21, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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yeah, mine had a/c, though i didnt put it back on...
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