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does anyone else have problems with the carter fuel pump wire connection at the pump

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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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does anyone else have problems with the carter fuel pump wire connection at the pump

i just fixed the dead ignitor in my FB. i went down the road to test it out. i got less than a mile down the road and my car died. i tried to start it but i noticed i couldnt hear the fuel pump. so i opened the hood to make sure all connections were good. then leaned under the car and pushed the wires on the pump more. it fired rigth up after that.

this is the second time this has happened.

does anyone else have this problem? does anyone have an idea to improve upon the design? the connections arent threaded so i cant used a nut, unfortunately. i did have electrical tape around the end and the pump a little. this apparently didnt work so just now when i pushed the connections back on i pulled it off and ditched it.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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I have had the same experience with this. You can either crimp the connector tighter or use a nytie and cinch it down to secure the connection.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Run new wires with a relay to the pump. use the coil or any ignition wire to trigger the relay.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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^^^what Wacky said....I've never had a prob with my Carter.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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Just thought of this. Run a die over the connecting stud then put a nut on it.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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I had the exact same problem with this pump. Its been awhile but I think I crimped them a little to make them fit tighter but I ended up changing to a Holley.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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The only time I have had a problem with my carter pump is that one time when I bottomed out on some crazy railroad tracks and it busted both connections of the pump clean off. That sucked btw.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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^^ how did you fix that? drill and tap it?

wacky-- i have a relay controlling the pump. honestly though IMO, i dont think it helped at all. i can still hear the pump fluctuate when the electronics are on. i can turn on the hazard lights and hear its tone slightly change. the issue isnt it getting power, its the power wires staying on the pump. they just dont seem to have a good hold.

doc-- whats a nytie? i thought about running a die over it to thread it, but damn thatll be a pain and dies arent cheap. ill probably try crimping it.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Nytie AKA ziptie.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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A die at a local auto parts store or hardware store is around $5-$6 :-)
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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I simply pushed on the connectors and correctly installed the metal clip. No problems.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Maybe a few drops of solder on the connections. Just be careful with an open flame around a fuel pump.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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It might be that the metal retaining clip did not get installed?
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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what metal retaining clip? ive bought two of these and never saw such a thing. may be i over looked them
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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A couple of guys had problems with this, but found that they had not pushed the connector all the way onto the post. You have to press pretty hard, but then it is a very tight connection. On the other hand, maybe you just got some bad components with your pump. Seems like you should be able to just crimp the connectors for a tighter hold though... Good luck.
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Old Aug 6, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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^^ how did you fix that? drill and tap it?
I had to replace the pump. It sucked because I had to push my car 12 blocks back to my house.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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^^^ Yeah, but you should really check out his buttocks now! What a workout, eh? lol.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 07:21 PM
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I would love to know what I could do. I just got a carter pump used, and it didn't come with the wire connectors at all. Should I try soldering wires to the connectors on the pump, or is there a better solution (that I can do quick rather than waiting to order the proper connectors which apparently don't work well anyways)
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 12:37 AM
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Just want to update on this. I did have an issue with this for a bit. I think, can't remember exactly since it's been a while, all I did was crimp the connections a little and it fixed my problem. So I wouldn't say the connectors don't work. Could they be designed better, I believe so, but I haven't had any more issues since around the time of this thread, 4 years or so, and my car is MUCH stiffer and driving on much worse roads now.

Nick-- I would either get the normal connectors from carter, or thread the posts and use nuts to hold on connectors. If you go that route, I'd personally go with one nut above and one below the connector. Due to the way it's designed, this will give a better connection. Good luck.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 11:09 PM
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I took my fuel pump into parts source today to see if I could get a tap for the posts and the guy measured them and said there are no taps that size..so its not going to work.

So I got a cheap soldering gun and going to try and learn how to solder.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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Duct tape. Yep, I put one piece over the heads of the wires then wrapped a long piece around that piece around the body of the pump. Ghetto, but works.
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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Those posts are too thick to solder wires to them. Get a type of terminal that will work with the pump. They might have them at a major parts store, or you might have to go to an electrical supply shop. Do it right, do it once....




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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kentetsu
Those posts are too thick to solder wires to them. Get a type of terminal that will work with the pump. They might have them at a major parts store, or you might have to go to an electrical supply shop. Do it right, do it once....




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+1 You should be able to find an electrical connection that will fit. Just hit up an industrial supply, or electronics, store. Fully agree, do it right, do it once. Personally, my time is way too valuable to waste.
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 03:19 PM
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good points guys...i will try to do that. i have no idea how to even saulder properly anyways
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