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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 01:11 AM
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disadvantages to sidedraft, and what is oer

hey like the title says im lookin to find out what advantages/disadvantages there are to the sidedraft style carbs,
and what is the oer carberator, i think its stands for something like original equipment replica/replacement? i think they are designed to be like the webber sidedraft 48, but cheaper not sure though....just wondering would it be alot better to spend the money on a real webber? anyone with personal experience please comment on your thoughts...
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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In my opinion, the real Webers are better than the knock-offs (e.g. Mikuni, Delorto). Sidedrafts (DCO) are okay, but I prefer the downdrafts (IDA) because the float bowls are better.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Aint it like DCO's will give you a little more torque for street use while IDA's net more horses for running the track.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Aint it like DCO's will give you a little more torque for street use while IDA's net more horses for running the track.
Something like that.... I think. Also sidedrafts don't have to be prepped for boost. So if you're going turbo you're better off with sidedraft unless you don't mind having to boost prep and try to get metal floats that won't be crushed and so on. I'd rather have my sidedraft.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Aint it like DCO's will give you a little more torque for street use while IDA's net more horses for running the track.
No. That is incorrect.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Misthael
Something like that.... I think. Also sidedrafts don't have to be prepped for boost. So if you're going turbo you're better off with sidedraft unless you don't mind having to boost prep and try to get metal floats that won't be crushed and so on. I'd rather have my sidedraft.
Uh, where the hell are you getting your information?
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Where are you getting your info? Every thread I've ever seen about sidedrafts has said so. The longer runners on the sidedraft intake give better torque but don't give as much high end power as the downdrafts. I may be wrong about nto having to boost prep, but I'm fairly sure of my info. Plus you just saying "Where the hell..." doesn't make me want to believe you or respect you.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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what about webber vs. "knock off"(oer)

is the webber gonna be worth the extra clams
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Where are you getting your info? Every thread I've ever seen about sidedrafts has said so. The longer runners on the sidedraft intake give better torque but don't give as much high end power as the downdrafts. I may be wrong about nto having to boost prep, but I'm fairly sure of my info. Plus you just saying "Where the hell..." doesn't make me want to believe you or respect you.
just 'words of advice'

you don't have to believe everything you see on the threads here on the forum. personal experiences and in-person observation as opposed to online info will almost guarantee better information.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Well I trust the well respected members on the forum that have helped me the whole way who have real life experience and racing experience. I think I'll continue to trust them.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by onslaught_81
is the webber gonna be worth the extra clams
this is still my question....not who is right/wrong open a new thread to argue, please i just want input so i can make a more informed decision
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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Webers will be worth the extra dollars you put into it
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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If your interested I have a 55 DCO "Sidedraft" and a 48 IDA "Downdraft" I'll be putting up for sale. The IDA is the best carb I have ever used good bottom end, midrange and awesome top end. Fairly easy to work on and a very simple design that just works great on Mazda Rotary powered vehicle. As for the DCO it is a much larger throttle bore so you can make more horsepower. At this time the IDA's are cheaper because there are plenty of them available and the DCO's are in high demand so the cost will be higher.

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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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are you looking for a carb for a street or track car?? daily driver?
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Misthael
Where are you getting your info? Every thread I've ever seen about sidedrafts has said so. The longer runners on the sidedraft intake give better torque but don't give as much high end power as the downdrafts. I may be wrong about nto having to boost prep, but I'm fairly sure of my info. Plus you just saying "Where the hell..." doesn't make me want to believe you or respect you.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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i am looking for a daily/drift/street race type car...i like to drive fast and "race" other cars on the street but i also love driving the touge and drifting around those nice smooth curves, and ive heard that some carbs end up not being able to pull enough air????<--not sure!! also im looking for a carb that will work nice on a later turbo setup........
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Here's what I know for sure, this is a good setup and damn cheap too:
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=464222
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by onslaught_81
i am looking for a daily/drift/street race type car...i like to drive fast and "race" other cars on the street but i also love driving the touge and drifting around those nice smooth curves, and ive heard that some carbs end up not being able to pull enough air????<--not sure!! also im looking for a carb that will work nice on a later turbo setup........
So should we reserve you a spot at the morgue or the county jail?
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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A daily drift streetracer, sweet! Like those Initial D guys! I wanna be just like them too! Touge! Hachi Roku! Yeah, I don't really know Japanese, but it makes me sound cool when I say random phrases though, right? Yeah, of course! Konnichi wa!
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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So should we reserve you a spot at the morgue or the county jail?
id prefer the morgue....thanks
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Holy crap. I just now read what he posted he wanted for the car. You are teh ultimate noob wannabe ricer and should be banned... from life.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Thumbs down

Originally Posted by Misthael
Holy crap. I just now read what he posted he wanted for the car. You are teh ultimate noob wannabe ricer and should be banned... from life.
oh really because of the way i like to drive, and because right now i can only afford one car, so my one car=daily driver, but since i like to drift and drive fast im a ricer noob....holy **** i never new the way someone drove made em a ricer...cool
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Is there a flame section on this forum? Cause this would fit right in. We need to start a flame section just for this guy. LOL! You made my day. That was a good laugh. Oooooooooooooh boy. Stomach hurts from laughing. Nub.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by onslaught_81
id prefer the morgue....thanks
Man I say it for your own good. I live at the bottom of a mountain where two canyons converge and it's getting real repetitive hearing emergency service vehicles going up the canyons pulling someone out of river or like last week scraping some inoccent motorcycle riders of the pavement because some kids thought they could "drift" down the mountain and ended up in the same lane as the riders.
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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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hey thanks for the words of advise rotor13b, the last thing im trying to do is hurt/kill anyone......
anyway so my question is still if anyone has any experience with the oer carb? if so what do you think of it?
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