Originally Posted by kenn_chan (Post 7902786)

Quoted from you:

Kenwood double din headunit with built in Nav $1200
Boston Pro 60 6 1/2 component speakers $400
Alpine pdx 1.1000 & pdx 2.150 $900
JL audio 12" W6 sub $400
Optima yellow top $200
new power antenna $100
Viper Alarm w/ power door locks, window roll up module, auto start, and paging $800 installed.
Labor and Materials $2000
Tax none, paid with big baller cash
Total cost $6000


First my qualifications, former manager/lead installer at Audio Park Casper, in Hayama Japan for 5 years.. currently i run a much larger shop that is not specialized in any one discipline

You came into the forum ready to pick a fight and talk shit to everybody who has posted. Many of the forum members have more patience than I do, and I thought about posting earlier, but I decided to wait and see the photos. While the equipment is all OK and the install is nice, it is still at best a so so install. door mounted speakers?

for any type of sound quality those went out of style in the early 90's minimum would be kick panel mounted mid and tweet or at least a center speaker setup to help balance the sound stage somewhat.

non $$$ spared would have gotten you some image dynamics horn loaded compression drivers mounted under the dash with perfect imaging and staging oh yeah they run 1000.00 just for the horn drivers, does not include the required midbass's at 200 per pair or the 24 db crossover required it is about 1400 (IDX24 made by image dynamics) for a total of 2400 just for the front speakers.

if you do not like image dynamics then you could go USD they make horn drivers also.

The above does not include the install price of the horns....

your amps are what class A/B at best? its been years since alpine made any class A gear, what sort of D/A convertor does your headunit use? oh yeah its a kenwood they do not tend to use high quality ones, especially in their one unit does all models, while some of their more upscale non navi headunits do use some respectable D/A convertors they have to scimp somewhere when they make a one unit does all, and its usually in the quality of the D/A convertors.

no $$$ spared? i think not, a true no dollars spared would have placed a couple of midbases either 6" or 8" somewhere in the front to help the imaging of the system. it would have included much more sound deading than what was installed in that car, mimimum would have been a total layer of dynomat on the floor, preferably two layers. it would have included some poly foam in all of the dead voids in the rear to reduce rattles from the sub. it would have included balanced line drivers from the head unit to the amps to prevent any possibilily of noise induction, and the list goes on.

in short while it is a nice install for a 1st gen, it is far from being a top of the line sound quality install and what you need to remember is that just like building engines, or custom body work there is always something better.

acting like an ass to the members of the forum will get somebody like me on who has enough experience in the area you are discussing to cut you off at the knees. As a 30 something year old I would expect you to act less like a 16 year old and more like the adult that you are.

go be the mac daddy elsewhere balla

Originally Posted by dj55b (Post 7903169)

Kenn Chan ... I thank you for backing up my statement about it and everyone putting me down for what I have said. If you reallly had no $$$ spared into the system 15k minimun would be what you're trying to prove. I wonder if they even did any real math on the exact position of things. From my reading to do kick panels properly, the angle should be positioned to the top center of the car for a more neutral sound. So what you do is grab some strings and tape them up in place to find out angle needed.

I'm not going to argue too much more, while it is better than just slapping a box in there, it far from the best.

Originally Posted by orion84gsl (Post 7903293)

Not that I don't respect the work going into it, but if your going to shove half a tree into a car, use something like an old Impala, not a 2400LB sports car. I also agree that the title left alot to be desired. If no expense was spared than why don't you have a wall of subs behind the seats and eight batteries, etc etc etc? Also as a side note to everyone interested in audio on a budget, eBay is your friend. My modest $1000 system would have cost at least double that, if not more had I gone to a retail store.

Originally Posted by mazdadude7 (Post 7904195)

I think it looks great, and if your happy thats all that matters. I think its funny you can see some peoples jealousy in their posts. Great looking car.