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Old 07-14-03, 05:43 PM
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clutch too soft and not engaging!!

I've got a 83 rx7 and just put in a new master and slave cylinder. when done i started pushing down on the clutch pedal and it felt like there was nothing to push down on.. This sucks !! There's no resistence once so ever...

One more thing somewhere in the tranny area there's alot of noise.

I just bought this car and i don't know if there's oil in the tranny maybe that might be the noise?
Old 07-14-03, 09:16 PM
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Did you bleed the system? Does the arm (clutch, at the slave cly.) move? Does the noise change when pushing in the pedal? Could the clutch arm not be seated on the ball correctly?
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On my cars, when the fluid is low the clutch drags; not soft.

I suspect the clutch arm is not socketed to the pushrod from the slave. It's difficult to get it right from on top.

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as racermike has stated, make sure that the system is bled, also there is a screw/rod on the slave cylinder that you can adjust. This sets the engage point on the clutch peddle closer to the floor.

this worked on my girfriends car ,her father did it not me so I am not certain of the logistics involved, but it was done in a matter of minutes so it can;t be that hard. Check out a chiltons manual or maybe a hayes manual, they are chocked full of things like that.

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I've noticed that the slave arm does not move at all, so basically you guys are saying is position it correctly. What about the noise in the tranny its always there, but seems to get louder when trying to put the car in gear. Its sort of a rattling noise. I'm gonna bleed the system now thanks.
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If the arm is not seated on the ball properly, it may be contacting the pressure plate (noise)??? When you say the arm does not move, I assume that the piston does not move in the slave cyl. as well?? Do the bleed and then check for movement (before starting engine). If it begins to move properly, the noise may go away. If the arm has come off the ball,,,,,,well I'm not sure you can get it back in the right position without disassembly. If that is the case, you can first remove the slave (mount only, not the line) and move it out of the way and try to seat the arm on the ball. (The ball and the pivot point on the arm are in the bellhousing and cannot be seen) Do NOT pull the arm out very far at all or you may disconnect it from the throw-out bearing. If none of this works you may be stuck with having to remove the transmission to get it all back together. bummer!
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i had no problem seating my slave cylinder on the shift fork after my last clutch install.... and i didn't even have to get under the car. it just takes patients. but definantly bleed the system, and seat the piston in the shift fork. then have a friend pump the clutch, while you watch the slave cylinder.
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Slave cly to fork (arm) is not the problem I speak of. It's the fork on the ball INSIDE the bellhousing (pivot point) that would be the bummer. I don't think I have ever had to try to do that so I'm not sure you can??? You have to get the ball seated in the cup of the arm (fork) and get it secured by the wire spring retainer AND have the fork in the throw-out bearing at the same time. I have knocked it off before while re-installing the transmission, but have always put it back on before continuing.
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