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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Clutch help

My car is currently using the 20 year old clutch that it came with and it feels rather crappy.....i want to buy a new clutch....i was wondering if i should get a stock clutch or a stage 2 or something.....as of now, the car is stock but i do intend to make it faster sooner or later...most likely much later

which clutch should i get?...would a stage 2 clutch work with a stock car just fine?...or would performance be better if i stuck with a stock clutch? i was thinking if i bought the stage 2 clutch now, then i wouldnt have to buy it later....if i bought a stock clutch, i can use it now but i'd have to upgrade the clutch later on anyway...realistically speaking, my car is probably going to be stock for a long while.....what is recommended?
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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wtf is a stage 2 clutch?
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Stick with stock. If you are modifying it much later, my guess would be with intake and exhaust being the engine mods, and the stock clutch will still hold up to it for many moons.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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If you plan on taking it to the drag strip, upgrade the pressure plate, which is all most stage 2 clutches are. They generally have about 30% more clamping force and give a slightly stiffer pedal. Stock pedal is so light a stage 2 makes the pedal feel more like most production cars.

You will also want to replace the clutch hydraulics, master, slave and replace the rubber hose with an SS one. Stiffer pressure plates, even a new stock one usually causes the original hydraulics to fail.
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Check out the clutches offered at www.re-speed.com

If they weren't proven to be good clutches for this application, then Billy wouldn't be offering them....



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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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I have had excellent results with Center Force Dual Friction clutches on my race car. They have 90% more clamping force than stock and pedal effort is not an issue because of the fly weights that are unique to CF clutches.

Unlike the 3-6 puck clutches I have driven the CF clutch is not grabby at low RPM's. Shifts at 8000+ are quick and sure - like shutting a vault door. After 60-70 races there is no wear on either side of the disk, flywheel or pressure plate. A one time purchase.
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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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I'd personally go with the Racing Beat HD Street/Strip clutch. Definietly more bite than stock but isn't stiff of hard to drive with. I used this clutch in my FB with stock PP and flywheel and loved the hell out of it. I can imagine it would be even better with their matching PP to go with it. My FB was stock with that clutch and I could chirp 3rd gear(no LSD ). If I decide to change out clutch/PP in my SA, it's definitely the clutch I'm going with.

Scott, have you driven any newer car recently? My girlie's Kia has such a soft clutch it's rediculous. I hate driving it after driving my SA cause I end up over revving on starts and it's hard to feel the pedal. I agree though that I like my clutch to be firm and precise.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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I'm running a ceramic disc in the wb, pedal effort is near stock and it's supposed to be good for 300+ hp. It looks like the one ReSpeed offers, but I picked it up cheaper a few years ago. Can't seem to find the clutch section on the ReSpeed site for some reason.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FirebirdSlayer666
I'd personally go with the Racing Beat HD Street/Strip clutch. Definietly more bite than stock but isn't stiff of hard to drive with. I used this clutch in my FB with stock PP and flywheel and loved the hell out of it. I can imagine it would be even better with their matching PP to go with it. My FB was stock with that clutch and I could chirp 3rd gear(no LSD ). If I decide to change out clutch/PP in my SA, it's definitely the clutch I'm going with.

Scott, have you driven any newer car recently? My girlie's Kia has such a soft clutch it's rediculous. I hate driving it after driving my SA cause I end up over revving on starts and it's hard to feel the pedal. I agree though that I like my clutch to be firm and precise.
No unfortunately all my street cars have automatics. I only get to shift gears in my racecar. Hope to change that some day but it will be awhile.

A buddy of mine has also had great luck with the Racing Beat clutch and Pressure Plate you are describing. In fact that clutch has out lived three FB race cars!
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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^^Haha oops, is your name Scott too? I was actually reffering to trochoid and his comment about the stock pedal feel being so soft that a "stage 2" would feel like most production cars
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Save the money on something else and replace it with a stock clutch. Stock clutch will take a lot of abuse.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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Go ahead and get the race clutch from racing beat or mazda trix springless...I ran that setup on stock setup mild setups and extreme setups for daily driving...no problem at all the wear and fade the disk was just the same...just harsher on the foot for daily driving...if your going to replace it do it right the first time get yourself a new race clutch and press. throw out bearing
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