Dom

Is it really in their possession, or just on their property?

Man, I'm sounding like the devil's advocate but all I'd like to clarrify is the liability issue. I see this thing applying to not just a storage place, but public parking and even coat checks...

Serena's help would be appreciated.

leif

i know in the "adventure tourisim" industry...those liability papers you sign are illegal...and dont hold up in court...its just a thing like "i would sue but i signed that agreement.

Rotor13B

That's because the person that did it is more than likely a patron of the storage facility.

leif

I'm not sure it is the patron, but it may be a buddy of his...anyway...i have to spend all day in my lab. but when im done we are going down there and talking to this guy (who is only the manager...the owner is conveniently in london [i will give yall an update after that])

also what i find suspect is that the manager wanted me to get my car out of there ASAP...leading me to beleive that he knows that if i move my car then i can no longer hold him responsible. ah the lovlyness of people

Tom

You..let.. Maaco..paint..your car?? My God, I hope it wasn't a 7.

Sounds like you just need to get in this guys face, wave the facts around and if all else fails- threaten to pummel him into bits 'n pieces.

Or you could get Serena's advice, as pointed out earlier (or you could get Serena to verbally pummel him into bits 'n pieces. God hath no fury like female attorney scorned).

leif

well im not gonna physically pummel him to bits...ill get nothing that way except the moments of satisfaction...untill they cart me off to jail that is.

I hear that if you do all the prep work your self...and all of the masking...maco atcually does a fairly good job of painting your car...its just the prep that they skimp on.

Tom

Aww- c'mon! A well deserved pummeling is in order!!

BTW- Maaco around here is a total crap shoot, even if you prep the car. My friend owns a body shop and has done several Maaco 'do-overs'.

leif

I have also heard about macco that they will do the painting agani if you are not 100% satisfied with their work...maybe thats just in canada though

MarkPerez

oh, i totally agree. the manager is involved, hands down !! it's either he did it, or he knows who. and his reasoning for you to remove your car asap ?? or does he just want you park it in another spot ?? is the car the only thing your storing there ?? you need to take pictures, do so with a newspaper in the for-ground for the dates and headlines. that holds up in any court. and manntis got his stereo or $$$$$ from them because for one they were wrong and two he's a large person
who was pissed and wasn't going to take any bullshit. thats how that works.

red_blast

I think you should rape, pilage, burn, destroy and terrorize! That's BS. If anyone ever touched my 7s I would beat the living **** out of them. I'm sorry to hear that about your car.

Manntis

Nope - it was the Audi Coupé that I picked up for $1. I hit a deer with it and insurance wanted to write it off if I went with a half decent paintjob - Maaco was the only option.

leif

im thinking he wants me to remove the car from his property so that he is no longer responsible...and can claim that the parts were removed after i moved the car...but if mantis is right...and the same law that says if i am behind in my payemnet (im not by the way) he can hold my property...also says that he is responsible for its safe protection of said property...then i have a good case.

MarkPerez

don't you want to know the reason(s) for your lease(storage) to be terminated ?
try to get it in writing if you can, i think legally one has to be served an eviction notice, payments are up to date and you can proove that.. very important..

Tom

*Wheeew*. My finger was poised on that reputation thing there for a moment!

leif

i have all of the cancled cheques from them...which they cashed...so i think that will suffice.

MarkPerez

so what is the reason(s) ????????? did it go down like this.. you went to the storage, discovered you car had been broke into? and stuff was missing. went to the office to ask/report what you discovered, then the on-site manager told you to remove your car right after you told him what had happened ?? does the guy have a some-what reasonable reason ?? see what i'm getting at? but you need to file a report with the cops asap.

i don't know what people are thinking these days. always trying to get over on someone. make a police report today, no reason not too..

Manntis

If he simply wants you out because you're pursuing him for the value of the goods - that ain't gonna cut it. In fact it makes him look all the more guilty.

MarkPerez

yep,,,, like a big sign with flashing lights.

Manntis

Go in there with a cop and a digicam or polaroid and snap photos of the molested car in storage - including where security cameras are located, etc.

RotorMotorDriver

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God I hate that feeling...Finding your car destroyed by some fuckwad who doesnt even care about it after all your hard work and money.

~T.J.

EDIT: Did that sound bitter? Im not bitter.

cosmicbang

Ask Serena about this but it might be worth following up: You should document any claims they make about the security features of the facility. Look in the phone book yellow pages or on any outside billboards, signs in the office, outside the facility, etc. and document any mention of the cameras. For example, if there is a sign stating "Protected by surveillance cameras," you should take a picture of that sign. They made a false and misleading claim that the facility was secure and under video / camera surviellance. You were not receiving the security services you thought you were paying for, which could be construed as fraud. I do not know Canadian law but you should check into that angle. In the US, they could at a minimum be forced to pay for your vehicle and refund all your storage charges for the time the car was stored in their facility and supposedly under video observation.

Manntis

He should have garage owner's insurance, which should cover him for the loss anyhow.

MarkPerez

still i would gather all recipts, and if the lock(s) were destroyed, have them fixxed or replaced before any claims filed. but still limited by only what you can proove.

in prepharing your case you may end up at the storage,,,,, don't say anything if the guy see's you, mind your onw business, collect what you need and bail...

get the guys name and run a records check, if you get bored.. crooks always repeat thier crimes.idiots..

leif

ok so heres the new deal...

i went in there with a buddy of mine today (he is a profesonal negotiator) and we went thru the same rigamarole...when he demanded i remove my car...I asked for a letter outlining the reason he was disolving our contract...he then got scared and refused to sign anything...so my buddy and i then said that we were going to go inspect the car. at which point he freaks and blurts out "i didnt take anything"

so I say "well i dindt accuse you of taking anything." so we talk more..and my buddy and i decide that we want $125.00 $75.00 for the missing parts...and $50 for sepetembers rent. so hes willing to give us septembers rent...but not the $75.00. I explain with manntis's "bailee for reward" that he has an obligation to keep my stuff safe...and he informs me that bailee for reward does not come into play cuz he operates under the "wharehousemans act"

so we say again that we are going to go inspect the car...and we do...and my original estimate is correct...what i thought was missing on sunday is all thats missing...

so we go back inside and we say "we will take the $50.00 on the condition that you write a letter...and sign it...saying why we disolved the conrtract...and that i was paid up until that point" (i want the letter for credit reasons.) and he refuses...and then retracts his $50.00

so my buddy gets involved and starts negotiating with him...but he wont budge...so we decided that we had reached an impass...

so both I and my buddy think this whoile thing is wierd...and im gonna go down to the cops tommorow to find out what my rights are.

i got serenas phone number...do you thinik she would mind me giving her a quick call?

Dom

14 A warehouseman shall be liable for loss of or injury to goods caused by his failure to exercise such care and diligence in regard to them as a careful and vigilant owner of similar goods would exercise in the custody of them in similar circumstances. R.S., c. 333, s. 13.

http://www.gov.ns.ca/legislature/leg...es/warerec.htm