Powerslave

Well I live on hill and never have flooded the Rx b4, wot happens is i had to move the car a couple of times and drove it for short distances and now its fucked it just sits there and wont start, it turns over ok but wont go! It sounds different too when i try to start it...a bit congested maybe? hmm I dunno i cleaned the plugs which are only 2,000 old, wot do u think? Batterys ok too ofcourse.
Someone gimme the fix flooded link if the above wont work please

peejay

Roll starting is the easiest way to start a flooded rotary. Get up to 25-30mph and pop the clutch in 2nd gear (ignition on of course!)

Manntis

if it's EGI, just press the pedal to the floor to cancel the injectors and crank it over until it starts.

peejay

Roll starting allows you to spin the engine much faster than the starter ever could. Great for starting a flooded engine.

Powerslave

Thats good to hear thanx Peejay
i was reading up on it in the meantime and the 2nd gen guys pull out a fuse and crank it, do u do the same for 12A 1st gen? which fuse do u pull if thats the case? Nothng on it said Fuel Pump :P

Manntis

The reason they pull the fuse is to kill the fuel sending unit, same as jamming the pedal to the floor does automatically on most fuel injected passenger vehicles.

Roll starting may spin the engine faster, but coasting down a hill @ 30MPH while concentrating on getting the engine going AND avoiding pedestrians, etc while not stopping and killing your momentum sounds a lot tougher than sitting and turning a key.

HOWEVER, all of that is moot as you've a carbie engine.

One nice thing about piston engines is you can often just walk away from a flooded engine and come back later. The fuel sloooowly drains through the oil rings and into the crankcase.

Keaponlaffen

If my car floods, I can push start it myself on flat ground? Going like 5-10 mph (as fast as I can run)

I just put it in neutral, get out with the key on, start running, jump in quickly, and jam it in second and let the clutch out.. normally starts up in about three seconds.. no problem.... but I've never flooded my car REALLY bad...

It helps if you have an assistant... like a girlfriend who's trapped at the shopping mall with you when the car flooded in the parking lot in 40 degree (yes, that's 102 farenheit, so manntis doesn't correct me ) weather...

Jeff

peejay

It helps if you have an assistant with another car to push you up to speed

I've heard many stories about people who'd buy RX-7s that "wont start", tie a rope to it to flat-tow it home, but only tow it about 2 blocks. Then they untie it and push it with the other car up to speed, pop the clutch, start the engine, and DRIVE it home

Pele

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What'd really suck is if you didnt have another car. You pay the good man, then add ATF and tell him you're coming tomorrow to tow it home. When tomorrow arrives, you show up without a tow truck, start the car and smoke out the sucker's neighborhood.

peejay

It'll smoke anyway

You don't need to let it sit if the car's merely flooded. Just yank the plugs, clean them off, put about a teaspon of ATF/MMO/motor oil down each primary throttle, crank it with the throttle open for a little while (until the white puffs of vapor stop spewing out the spark plug holes), screw in the spark plugs, and drive it away

Directfreak

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DID THAT!!!

Manntis

My buddy did something similar with a 928 that "wouldn't start". Picked it up for $3000 and flipped (as in sold) it for a tidy profit.

Hyper4mance2k

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my car $300 why? owner couldn't get it started i pulled the plugs let them dry off cranked it for a minute the put them back in it started up blew sooooooooo much smoke for like 10 minutes and the neighbors called the fire dept. and said there was a car fire you think they might of noticed the smoke was comming from the tail pipe and was white.. oh well. lol.

Defprun

Make sure its not auto, because i got some advice to roll start my automatic.

Okay, I get out with the key on, so i start running as fast as i can, jump in and jam it in second and let the...brake..out!?

Powerslave

Hmmmmm roll starting Autos....id like to see that...

Update : I pushed it down the driveway which wasnt easy then rolled it down the hill, once i got any kind of rolling going on i dropped the clutch in 2nd gear and it didnt do ****....kinda died.....gained some speed again and dropped it again and the same thing happend....next time i switched it to 1st gear and tires skidded....this might of helped....next time.....totally run out of hill by now and dreading wtf im gunna do when its stuck down there it catches on and im doing all kinda **** to keep it going and after about 10 seconds of that its going ok )
I gotta put in a switch for the fuel pump or sumthin, this **** cant go on!!! Is there a cable or particular fuse u can pull out for the 1st gens???

Keaponlaffen

pull one of the wires outta the floor under the storage bins for the fuel pump, and wire it into a switch... eassy as that...

So in that jumble of words, you DID indicate that the car DID start, correct?

Jeff

jacobcartmill

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My friend calls it "bomb starting" and it works.

peejay

The trick is, a lot of people use the switch incorrectly, if the flooding is due to leaky injectors.

The idea is to shut the switch off and allow the engine to run out of fuel and stall, instead of killing the switch when trying to start the engine the next morning.

Rotor13B

The trick to roll starting and having a hill is to put it in 3rd gear and hold the clutch till you get some decent speed then let it out. That way the car won't skid from the gearing being to low and allow you to leave the clutch out untill the engine catches. My 79' always had a dead battery because of the 4 12" speakers and amplifiers running my system. So I would put the car in nuetral, allow some speed to build and ease the clutch out in third and let it coast down the hill that way till the engine caught...lol

peejay

lol I had to do that at a race last year... normally i'd put the key in accessory position so i could leave the electric fan running in the staging lanes, cool things down... well i left it in the on position instead and the combination of the fan and the fuel pump going drained the battery... fortunately the engine always started on the first crank (good compression, and the MSD didn't hurt either! ) so we were able to bump-start it, which was good because i was up next to race and they were waiting for me

Powerslave

Yeah

cmartinp28

sorry to tell you my lil story that wasw similar to yours...... tried to roll start it... and nothing happen, i later found out that it wont start cuz my rotors cant hold compression cuz of a blown apex seal..... i have a feeling that you have the same problem

cmartinp28

but i guess i should have read the rest of the post....hehe, i guess you got the car started.... lucky you :-P

yayarx7

FWIW I have even roll started 12a's, with bad compression, that would never start with their own starter. I started three motors this way, hoping for just a stuck apex seal in each case, but when they do start, and run worse and worse, it means they are dead, and I must rebuild......I need to quit screwing up motors.......

Nick-7

My car will flood evey now and then if it doesn't warm up or just randomly. Is this a case of a bad fuel pressure regulator or what. The car did not flood as much before I adjusted the TPS. I tried to use the light bulb method but one of the lights won't work. I think the TPS is bad.